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02-18-2017 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
I don't know your background LL but I'd be pretty skeptical of someone without a deep and relevant theoretical and practical background in bio metrics / machine learning trying to compete in this area. It's a hot area with big players already competing.
This is why you work in the industry for 5-10 years first, which if I'm not mistaken is what he wants to do.
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02-18-2017 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones
This is why you work in the industry for 5-10 years first, which if I'm not mistaken is what he wants to do.
If you want to do cutting edge research into bio metrics and machine learning you're almost certainly not going to get there with just a bootcamp background.
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02-18-2017 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones
This is why you work in the industry for 5-10 years first, which if I'm not mistaken is what he wants to do.
I lolled. This is clearly the opposite of what he has stated.

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Originally Posted by jjshabado
If you want to do cutting edge research into bio metrics and machine learning you're almost certainly not going to get there with just a bootcamp background.
You could do it with any background. See most of what Andrew Ng has put out on specifically how to get into AI careers.

Regardless, the idea that he'd become an SME in 5-10 years then start a chatbot company with no monetization model at that point in time is about as reasonable as using a penis pump for the period and becoming a porn star.
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02-20-2017 , 12:11 AM
Uber is getting some bad PR now
https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/20...e-year-at-uber
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02-20-2017 , 01:07 PM
Interesting read. Although bad PR for Uber -- even on this topic -- is nothing new.
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02-22-2017 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Barrin6
another trouble making broad
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02-22-2017 , 09:17 AM
listen and believe!
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02-22-2017 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Barrin6
I want to know what this leather jacket looks like.
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02-22-2017 , 09:39 AM
Just totally curious, do you guys not believe the story? Do you think she's exaggerating something that actually happened? Do you think she's telling the truth?

Not sure what to make of:

"another trouble making broad" or "listen and believe!"

Although, I guess I don't really care what the guy who's username is "8=====D" thinks.
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02-22-2017 , 10:17 AM
another trouble making broad seems like about the most obviously facetious post I've ever read.
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02-22-2017 , 10:30 AM
I 100% can't tell anymore. Although your confidence level seems ridiculous high for a guy with a penis as a username.
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02-22-2017 , 10:38 AM
I think I've seen that guy post before and he has been normal, but it might be a different guy with a different shaft length, if you follow.
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02-22-2017 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Just totally curious, do you guys not believe the story? Do you think she's exaggerating something that actually happened? Do you think she's telling the truth?

Not sure what to make of:

"another trouble making broad" or "listen and believe!"

Although, I guess I don't really care what the guy who's username is "8=====D" thinks.
I think it's unlikely that someone would make something like this completely up, but also that there are two sides to every story, so I guess I cautiously believe her until I have more info.

My "listen and believe" comment was facetious by the way. It's an understandable sentiment, but treads on thin ice if taken literally.
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02-22-2017 , 02:42 PM
While the atmosphere is obviously absurd, her behavior and post hoc offense is pretty ridiculous. She clearly stayed there for a long time to advance her career when any sane person would immediately quit if they joined a company and had their manager proposition them for sex and received the response she purportedly received. (I guess unless writing about the absurdity in addition to the beneficial resume you built would be more beneficial, which seems like it clearly was.)
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02-22-2017 , 02:46 PM
Lol at "post hoc offense", I'm pretty sure she was offended at the time as well.

And someone can be offended by the behaviour of their employer and still decide its worth it to continue working there. In no way does that make it ridiculous for them to comment on the ****tyness of their employer once they leave.
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02-22-2017 , 03:24 PM
Its absurd to think everyone would immediately quit if a single person in a multiple thousand employee organization caused you an issue. I would guess a majority of like 90% of women in her situation would not have immediately quit, so you should reconsider your definition of "any sane person".
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02-22-2017 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Lol at "post hoc offense", I'm pretty sure she was offended at the time as well.

And someone can be offended by the behaviour of their employer and still decide its worth it to continue working there. In no way does that make it ridiculous for them to comment on the ****tyness of their employer once they leave.
Yep. And this is why their careers generally end when this occurs several times.

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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
Its absurd to think everyone would immediately quit if a single person in a multiple thousand employee organization caused you an issue. I would guess a majority of like 90% of women in her situation would not have immediately quit, so you should reconsider your definition of "any sane person".
At what point during the prolonged string of harassment she allegedly documented do you think most women would have quit? By all accounts she knew of this far sooner than virtually anyone else in SRE and lasted far longer, and is the only person to write an extended thought piece on the subject.

It seems by month 3-4 she knew this behavior was systematic and HR had no interest in preventing his actions to solicit other female coworkers. Do you think any normal person with a reasonable view of ethics would continue to work at somewhere so obviously hostile?

From my perspective, she worked at somewhere that had an obviously ridiculous and hostile work situation, gritted it out for a few months (prob because it was a great job for her), but then continued going in for another 8 months despite being aware of the ridiculousness of the situation. This is what I find pretty strange. If I was being harassed at work, and was aware that HR was not only ignorant but actively abetting the situation, I wouldn't go in, but I suppose I have significantly more options than a run of the mill engineer.
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02-22-2017 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
I suppose I have significantly more options than a run of the mill engineer.
Finally something we can agree on!
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02-22-2017 , 04:08 PM
Actually after looking at her resume it is pretty obvious why she stayed. She washes out of Uber after three months and she's held three jobs over like a year and a half, which is... not good.

Seems like a genuinely horrible position to be in.
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02-22-2017 , 04:30 PM
I believe her but she's not enough of a victim for me to give a ****. Also, writing a blog post promoting her o'reilly book instead of filing a lawsuit makes her a trouble making broad.
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02-22-2017 , 04:43 PM
See Chris.
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02-22-2017 , 05:48 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how these events bring out all the trolls and idiots and both.
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02-22-2017 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
See Chris.
I stand corrected.
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02-22-2017 , 08:19 PM
US Govt captcha:



Of course it also comes after you log on.
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02-22-2017 , 10:03 PM
I'm surprised adios hasn't been all over that post spraying us with his hot takes on females in technology...
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