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RedBullGaveMeWings 04-16-2012 11:54 AM
Starting to learn Java. Help!!
 
Hey guys, I'm attempting to start learning Java through Java for Dummies.

I'm struggling getting the software required to get myself set up. The references in the book seem to be old and I'm unable to locate the various software. Any help or advice, links etc to get me set up?

Thanks in advance.

Chips Ahoy 04-16-2012 12:01 PM
Re: Starting to learn Java. Help!!
 
http://eclipsetutorial.sourceforge.n...lbeginner.html

warpcrash 04-16-2012 02:01 PM
Re: Starting to learn Java. Help!!
 
I'd start with C+ java is terrbile imho. Better than it used to be a years back though but still not there.

RedBullGaveMeWings 04-17-2012 08:47 AM
Re: Starting to learn Java. Help!!
 
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Originally Posted by warpcrash (Post 32634580)
I'd start with C+ java is terrbile imho. Better than it used to be a years back though but still not there.
Well I got a little understanding of C and C#, but Java is part of a college course I'm starting in Sept so it's important that I learn it.

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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy (Post 32632759)
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jjshabado 04-17-2012 11:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by warpcrash (Post 32634580)
I'd start with C+ java is terrbile imho. Better than it used to be a years back though but still not there.
Lol, what's there?

daveT 04-18-2012 02:48 AM
Re: Starting to learn Java. Help!!
 
Amazing how a "Java for Dummies" book figures you're advanced enough to not bother teaching you how to set up a development environment...

You sure this was a good buy?

RedBullGaveMeWings 04-18-2012 07:13 AM
Re: Starting to learn Java. Help!!
 
The book was from 2005, the links in it do not exist. I did not buy it.

mindsplatter 04-18-2012 01:44 PM
Re: Starting to learn Java. Help!!
 
you up and running yet?

warpcrash 04-18-2012 04:02 PM
Re: Starting to learn Java. Help!!
 
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Originally Posted by jjshabado (Post 32662974)
Lol, what's there?
Well don't know whether it's the coders or the java virtual machine setup that end user have to use to get java to work on their sytem but my answer is...

Implementation and correct functionality is not there yet. By this I mean crashes and lock up of systems, massive resource uses of java programs, and basically **** not working. Most of this has not been a problem for me since I've been using windows 7, but I have a feeling it is for people still on XP.

warpcrash 04-18-2012 04:05 PM
Re: Starting to learn Java. Help!!
 
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Originally Posted by RedBullGaveMeWings (Post 32666241)
The book was from 2005, the links in it do not exist. I did not buy it.

I'd advise getting a new book, java is always changing and updating their syntax I believe it's called , I took a class in 03, 05, and 08 and had to learn changes every time for the newest java version.

jjshabado 04-18-2012 07:52 PM
Re: Starting to learn Java. Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by warpcrash (Post 32673654)
Well don't know whether it's the coders or the java virtual machine setup that end user have to use to get java to work on their sytem but my answer is...

Implementation and correct functionality is not there yet. By this I mean crashes and lock up of systems, massive resource uses of java programs, and basically **** not working. Most of this has not been a problem for me since I've been using windows 7, but I have a feeling it is for people still on XP.
I do not understand. First, I'm not sure how the "crashes and lock up of systems" are Java's fault. Second I'm not sure judging how something works on a 10+ year old operating system is a fair measurement of how good something is.

gaming_mouse 04-19-2012 11:49 PM
Re: Starting to learn Java. Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBullGaveMeWings (Post 32648305)
Well I got a little understanding of C and C#, but Java is part of a college course I'm starting in Sept so it's important that I learn it.
don't worry, java is a much friendlier language than C++.

kts82 04-20-2012 02:39 AM
Re: Starting to learn Java. Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by warpcrash (Post 32673697)
I'd advise getting a new book, java is always changing and updating their syntax I believe it's called , I took a class in 03, 05, and 08 and had to learn changes every time for the newest java version.
mostly the syntax doesn't change too much, what its always changing or updating is libraries/api's

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Originally Posted by warpcrash (Post 32673654)
Well don't know whether it's the coders or the java virtual machine setup that end user have to use to get java to work on their sytem but my answer is...

Implementation and correct functionality is not there yet. By this I mean crashes and lock up of systems, massive resource uses of java programs, and basically **** not working. Most of this has not been a problem for me since I've been using windows 7, but I have a feeling it is for people still on XP.
Implementation and correct functionality don't depend on the language, they depend on developers

and nowdays java is used to make high demand aplications and they work perfectly


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