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Help! I don't know **** and I have to make this guy's web site. Help! I don't know **** and I have to make this guy's web site.

05-08-2013 , 02:30 PM
One of my good friend is owner of sign and banner company witch also makes websites with it's designers. Owner and Designers don't know much about HTML,CSS all that stuff they just design ****s with programs like photoshop corell etc..

There is only one person that is good with computer and he's on emergency vacation. Problem is Owner already recieved the money from doctor's office to build it's web site. He and I were having dinner and when he told me his situation I promised him I will surely find the guy for the job.( I was drunk lol) . Well now Im sober and I can't find the guy. I told him "Hey, sorry man but I can't find ****. You're ****ed man" that's when he told me " No no no you are ****ed you promised me" . Since I couldn't find anyone he wants me to be responsible and take on the job myself . I tried to tell him " Yo. Dude , I don't know **** about html and css all that bull **** " . He's like " There is always first time for everything" . He thinks that it's good opportunity for me to learn web designing and start working for him wtf!!!

I don't want to have my friend as boss but any how I'm going to have to do this site. I feel little bit overwhelem. All I know about webdesign is basic wordpress and that's it . Designers whom I'm going to work with seems to have even less knowledge than I do.

What do I have to learn first to start this task ? What programs do I need ? Like I said all I know is little bit about Wordpress. I don't know **** about codeing. Is dreamweaver good html program for beginner or should I just start with free one I can get off the web ?

Please help me out dear 2+2 friends. Im winning SSNL player and willing to give you free coaching if you need one.
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05-08-2013 , 02:34 PM
Just take 1/2 of what they paid for the website and pay someone else to do it.
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05-08-2013 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jmark
Just take 1/2 of what they paid for the website and pay someone else to do it.
OMZ you are a genius why didn't I think of that ?

No man. I have to work with their designers to make this website. Owner is hellbent on becoming my boss. Honestly I don't mind taking this time to learn new things. So Im just gonna have to do it.
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05-08-2013 , 02:48 PM
So what is the question here? Are you looking for someone to convert the photoshop design into html/css for you or teach you how to do it yourself?
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05-08-2013 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by txpstwx
So what is the question here? Are you looking for someone to convert the photoshop design into html/css for you or teach you how to do it yourself?
Teach me bro. Do you need to convert those ? I thought wordpress can convert those without coding?

Anyhow bro teach me.
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05-08-2013 , 03:19 PM
Is this a serious post or are you trolling?
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05-08-2013 , 03:21 PM
Does it look like trolling ? Im serious.

Reading html tutorial now. What html edior do you guys recommend for beginners ?
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05-08-2013 , 03:36 PM
Your friend is a good salesman and a not-so-good friend.
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05-08-2013 , 04:11 PM
If you aren't trolling, you're probably getting trolled by your "friend".

Anyway, you should start by talking to the designers. I would guess that they know more than you think they know.
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05-08-2013 , 04:24 PM
I already talk to the designers bro. They are good at graphic design but don't know jack about anything else. They are all like " Oh! You are the new web master, Thank god we don't know **** about computers " . Grrrrr What have I got myself into..

So you will teach me how to to convert those to code ?
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05-08-2013 , 04:32 PM
There's no way you are a real person who exists in this world. On the small chance you are a real person who exists in this world, post this on an actual programming forum. I love this forum and all, but if you're really in a bind here, you should post an edited version of this (so people don't think you're a 15 year old) on a bunch of programming forums where there's a lot of traffic/experts.
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05-08-2013 , 04:42 PM
Don't judge book by it's cover. Who are you tell me how to write my ****?

Besides I read some thread in here and I feel like I can get help here.
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05-08-2013 , 04:54 PM
I don't get why you wouldn't try to put together a coherent post with well thought-out questions rather than a rambling post with a bunch of typos and swear words.

Why can't you just pay someone to do this for you and have them skype/have conference calls with the designers? I mean that's really your only chance at producing a quality product. And why is your friend willing to rest his reputation on your shoulders when you know nothing? None of this makes any sense to me. I'm going to return to my life now. Good luck to you.
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05-08-2013 , 05:02 PM
The graphic designers said they don't know anything about computers? They hired someone that doesn't even know the basics of HTML to build websites for them?

I find it pretty hard to believe that somebody isn't messing with somebody here.

Do you have the website content? Do you have the design? What does it look like? What format is it in?
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05-08-2013 , 05:21 PM
Just to get the simple "Html editor for beginners" I get harrassed and asked million questions.

Honestly Go_blue has been the most helpful person. I am getting useful resposne else where with edited version of "this post" .
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05-08-2013 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by EmoisMoe
Just to get the simple "Html editor for beginners" I get harrassed and asked million questions.
That's not what you asked. You told us a crazy story about an incompetent sign/design shop and asked for website help in exchange for ssnl coaching.

Any editor should be fine.
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05-08-2013 , 07:03 PM
May as well go with Notepad++.
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05-08-2013 , 07:10 PM
Don't mean to derail too much, but will anyone recommend some other good programming forums?
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05-08-2013 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by EmoisMoe
that's when he told me " No no no you are ****ed you promised me" .
tell him to fk off and find new friends

or tell him to pay you the full quote and then you outsource it

or, continue to bang your head against the wall despite the legitimate advice that you have already turned down as 'unhelpful'. its up to you. alas, it seems like you are gonna choose the hard way. have fun programming HTML bud
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05-09-2013 , 02:33 AM
Find an easy to use CMS (Content Management System) and do your best to make what they want using that. There's no way you're going to go from not knowing anything about this stuff to building a professional website from scratch within the time frame you're probably looking at to get the site done.

I'm shocked to hear that this guy hires designers who don't know html/css. These are not programming languages and do not require knowledge of programming to be proficient in. I'm a programmer and I know plenty of designers who are more skilled in html/css than I am. In fact, I was under the impression that knowing html/css was a prerequisite for being a web designer.
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05-09-2013 , 06:59 AM
Tell him you thought you could find someone but you can't. Sorry. This is going to be hugely stressful for you if you continue.
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05-09-2013 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WishICouldLAG
I'm shocked to hear that this guy hires designers who don't know html/css. These are not programming languages and do not require knowledge of programming to be proficient in. I'm a programmer and I know plenty of designers who are more skilled in html/css than I am. In fact, I was under the impression that knowing html/css was a prerequisite for being a web designer.
One of the most common job descriptions I've seen lately has been for liaisons between designers and developers. Preferably, said liaison knows HTML and CSS. I see this job ad posted almost every single day in Los Angeles.

I guess it depends on where you get your training for web design. In many settings, they just set up the designers with Dreamweaver, tell then to delete the <!DOCTYPE> and carry on with using table-layouts, but in general, they seldom learn anything more than Adobe Suite, so the HTML/CSS guy has to "cut up" the PSD documents and do "pixel-perfect translations."
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05-09-2013 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by WishICouldLAG
Find an easy to use CMS (Content Management System) and do your best to make what they want using that. There's no way you're going to go from not knowing anything about this stuff to building a professional website from scratch within the time frame you're probably looking at to get the site done.

I'm shocked to hear that this guy hires designers who don't know html/css. These are not programming languages and do not require knowledge of programming to be proficient in. I'm a programmer and I know plenty of designers who are more skilled in html/css than I am. In fact, I was under the impression that knowing html/css was a prerequisite for being a web designer.
Im learning html hardcore right now. It's actually alot easier than I thought it would be. The hospiatal is remodeling it's interiors and hasn't even pick the website name so I think I have enough time. Im hoping web developer guy would come back soon and take over.

What CMS do you recommend ? Isn't wordpress CMS if not what's the difference ? Any help would be appreciate
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05-09-2013 , 07:51 PM
r u polish
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05-10-2013 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by EmoisMoe
What CMS do you recommend ? Isn't wordpress CMS if not what's the difference ? Any help would be appreciate
Yes, Wordpress is a CMS and it's definitely easy to use. It's also popular, so there are a lot of plugins out there for doing various things. The only CMS I have experience with is Magnolia. It's pretty easy to use (according to our clients anyway, I don't actually build the sites so I don't have the same perspective as someone who does) and open source like Wordpress, but if Wordpress can do what you want then you're probably better off just using that. It's the most popular and there's a ton of reference material out there for how to use it and do all kinds of things with it.

Even if you're using a CMS, it's still good to have a working knowledge of html/css/js though. Using one just makes it so much faster to get a site up and off the ground and also guarantees that the content of the site is going to be easy to update and maintain. If you can get something presentable it can buy you a little bit of time to hire someone more experienced or for the developer to come back and clean up any mistakes you've made.

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Originally Posted by daveT
I guess it depends on where you get your training for web design. In many settings, they just set up the designers with Dreamweaver, tell then to delete the <!DOCTYPE> and carry on with using table-layouts
Table layouts in 2013. Gross! I don't doubt it for one second though.

Last edited by WishICouldLAG; 05-10-2013 at 03:20 AM.
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