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Old 03-17-2011, 01:16 PM   #51
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Who do you think is the most interesting person to study?


I'd say Hitler.
Yeah, there's just so much written about him, and the effect of his life and decisions were pretty massive. His interesting period is limited to 15 years or so. If you could pick a 'clan' i'd be leaning to the Kennedy's/Kim's of Northern Korea.
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:20 PM   #52
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Re: The Low Content thread for History Buffs

Columbus is pretty interesting too, with his achievements and shortcomings.

Then we have the Baader-Meinhof complex.

Edgar Hoover.

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Old 03-17-2011, 01:27 PM   #53
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Just out of interest, without having to trawl through books, what were his shortcomings?
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:37 PM   #54
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Who do you think is the most interesting person to study?


I'd say Hitler.
Churchill way ahead imo. Many just think WW2 but so much more, an extraordinary chap.

Even before his political carear he escaped a pow camp during the boer war and had a price on his head (I think he was the only such person)

Then there's huge politics: general strike, minimum wage, gold standard, his pro-appeasment role, his anti-appeasment role, galiipoli and much more in WW1, gassing the kurds, WWII. etc etc

and the man: painter, writer, bricklayer, manic depressive, alcoholic, wit and repartee

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Old 03-17-2011, 03:53 PM   #55
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Re: The Low Content thread for History Buffs

I would say Jesus, not because of faith (I'm actually a long time agnostic) but because I like the question of whether he actually existed regardless of divinity. What do you think, man or myth (please no derail into theist vs atheist debate)?

Hi's is my suggestion but I liked histards
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:04 AM   #56
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Churchill way ahead imo. Many just think WW2 but so much more, an extraordinary chap.
I agree with you 100% that Churchill is way way way ahead but i only have one question. With all of those :
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and the man: painter, writer, bricklayer, manic depressive, alcoholic, wit and repartee
how did he managed not to be a heavy coke user?
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Just out of interest, without having to trawl through books, what were his shortcomings?
Columbus apparently? Believing the world was so small, that he thought he had come to Asia, and apparently stubbornly believing it to the end. Being a bad and savage administrator of the conquered areas in the New world. And...not having any painting or even drawing to be done of himself. So we donīt know how he looked . How is that possible? We are talking about a remarkable explorer, 15th-16th century.

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Old 03-18-2011, 06:07 AM   #58
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Columbus apparently? Believing the world was so small, that he thought he had come to Asia, and apparently stubbornly believing it to the end. Being a bad and savage administrator of the conquered areas in the New world. And...not having any painting or even drawing to be done of himself. So we donīt know how he looked . How is that possible? We are talking about a remarkable explorer, 15th-16th century.
Lols. So are all the 'pictures' of him just by memory etc.? No facial reconstructions?
What a silly boy
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:09 AM   #59
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I would say Jesus, not because of faith (I'm actually a long time agnostic) but because I like the question of whether he actually existed regardless of divinity. What do you think, man or myth (please no derail into theist vs atheist debate)?

Hi's is my suggestion but I liked histards
There is more documentation/proof etc. for his existence than people like Caesar. There is no doubt of his existence imho, just his achievments.
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Old 03-18-2011, 08:16 AM   #60
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Re: The Low Content thread for History Buffs

What do people think of a thread about "greatest" past "people" thread. We could import some of the lists already done; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Greatest_Britons, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gre...merican#Top_25, or some others, or make our own?
Maybe specify criteria; influence, moral good, power, cultural importance, reverence, etc.
Think i'd enjoy discussing why some should be higher/lower, included/not;
but its probably important to get good thread boundaries before diving in

Bear in mind that this will not end up an influence thread like the one going on (and getting a bit derailed,) merely an awesomeness thread

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Old 03-18-2011, 09:29 AM   #61
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Re: The Low Content thread for History Buffs

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There is more documentation/proof etc. for his existence than people like Caesar.
This is simply not true. Here is a bust of Caesar sculpted in his lifetime. Here is Caesar's first-hand account of his Gallic campaign and here is his firsthand account of the Civil War. And this is over and above the ordinary historical records documenting not only Caesar's existence, but that of his ancestors and descendants. There are (probably) historical figures you can make that claim of, but not Caesar - poor choice.
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:41 AM   #62
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This is simply not true. Here is a bust of Caesar sculpted in his lifetime. Here is Caesar's first-hand account of his Gallic campaign and here is his firsthand account of the Civil War. And this is over and above the ordinary historical records documenting not only Caesar's existence, but that of his ancestors and descendants. There are (probably) historical figures you can make that claim of, but not Caesar - poor choice.
Fair point. How about Boudicca? Ancient Chinese emperors?
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:44 AM   #63
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Sure, for all I know. Just not Caesar, is all.
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:32 AM   #64
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Re: The Low Content thread for History Buffs

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What do people think of a thread about "greatest" past "people" thread. We could import some of the lists already done; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Greatest_Britons, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gre...merican#Top_25, or some others, or make our own?
Maybe specify criteria; influence, moral good, power, cultural importance, reverence, etc.
Think i'd enjoy discussing why some should be higher/lower, included/not;
but its probably important to get good thread boundaries before diving in

Bear in mind that this will not end up an influence thread like the one going on (and getting a bit derailed,) merely an awesomeness thread
Go for it.
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:45 AM   #65
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Who do you think is the most interesting person to study?
Hernan Cortez. It sounds like an odd choice, but his life is the remarkable I've ever read about.
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:53 PM   #66
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Re: The Low Content thread for History Buffs

Anyone got any cool resources online to look up historical stuff if cba to library it? Any good journals?
All i really got at the mo is wikipedia, and random links when googling
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:45 AM   #67
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Re: The Low Content thread for History Buffs

This forum is awesome.

That is all.
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Old 03-22-2011, 01:39 PM   #68
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Re: The Low Content thread for History Buffs

This is cool-
A gif of the seceding etc. of the USA civil war.


What do people think of a thread for historical pics?
Maybe one for historical links that are cool- so vid's on you tube, websites etc..
Obvs not wikipedia pages.
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This is cool-
A gif of the seceding etc. of the USA civil war.

Sorry, couldnīt open it.
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Old 03-22-2011, 07:13 PM   #70
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Re: The Low Content thread for History Buffs

http://thomaslegion.net/sitebuilderc...csa_states.gif
This is it. Sorry i have no idea how to gif etc

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Old 03-22-2011, 08:08 PM   #72
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Re: The Low Content thread for History Buffs

Those are awesome
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Old 03-22-2011, 08:10 PM   #73
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Thats a downloading one isnt it?
Are thesethese the same ones?
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:37 PM   #74
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Re: The Low Content thread for History Buffs

i'm interested in thoughts on where the internet ranks as an invention. in terms of how it would change the course of both macro (world events) and micro (everyday life for the avg person) history. what do you guys think?
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i'm interested in thoughts on where the internet ranks as an invention. in terms of how it would change the course of both macro (world events) and micro (everyday life for the avg person) history. what do you guys think?
Internet is more of a development than an invention, imo. The broadband technique is a key factor. This almost wouldn't be a proper world without it, imo.
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