The Heroic actions of Muslims during WW2 to save Jews - Page 4

God this is one of the single most one sided beatdowns I've ever seen on 2p2. It never ceases to amaze me how some people just don't know when to stay down. Thekid345 is lucky this was a rhetorical fight instead of a real fight... He'd have died from his injuries less than a quarter of the way through.

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02-25-2014 , 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Mirpuri

I came across this inadvertently and thought of this thread.

it was a great film. I came across the film while looking up information on the subject of Muslims saving Jews during WW2. It was an incredible moment when I found out about the film free men, watching was even better as it the film was based on true stories.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_Kaddour_Benghabrit

Si Kaddour Benghabrit is certainly a hero.

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02-25-2014 , 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BoredSocial

It never ceases to amaze me how some people just don't know when to stay down. Thekid345 is lucky this was a rhetorical fight instead of a real fight... He'd have died from his injuries less than a quarter of the way through.

What in the world? Is this suppose to be some form of Kentucky Justice or something?

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a real fight... He'd have died from his injuries less than a quarter of the way through.

LoL, how can drive yourself to post the above. You hack, this is an internet thread, no need to say I would get my ass kicked if this was a real life situation.

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04-06-2014 , 10:25 AM

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Throughout World War II a small number of Turkish diplomats (such as Necdet Kent, Namık Kemal Yolga, Selahattin Ülkümen and Behiç Erkin) risked everything to save the lives of 35,000 European Jews from the Nazi genocide. They were able to save so many Jews by leveraging Turkey’s neutral stance to pressure the Nazis into sparing the lives of Turkish Jews residing in Europe, while simultaneously granting thousands of European Jews fleeing the Nazi genocide refuge in Turkey

It is no understatement that these diplomats risked everything, on July 19 1944, the Gestapo ordered that all of the Jews on island of Rhodes report for deportation, Selahattin Ülkümen, the Turkish Consul General, instructed the Nazis that Turkey was neutral in the war and demanded they release every Turkish Jew and out of fear of causing an international incident the Nazis complied. Ülkümen’s actions saved the lives of 42 Jewish families, who were quickly evacuated from the island. In response to this humiliation the Nazis bombed the Turkish Consulate building, killing his pregnant wife. A few days later Ülkümen was deported by the Nazis to Piraeus, where he spent the remainder of the war in jail.

Pictured from left to right are Behiç Erkin, Selahattin Ülkümen, Namık Kemal Yolga and Necdet Kent

Were talking about 35,000(est) Jews being saved. Selahattin Ülkümen for example, that man is no doubt a hero to humanity. Because of his actions to save Jews during the war, Ülkümen would lose both his wife and freedom to the Germans.

http://www.judaism-islam.com/six-jew...saving-jews/3/

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04-11-2014 , 08:32 AM

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Let it go dude. You lost the thread a long time ago. Now you just seem pathetic.

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04-13-2014 , 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BoredSocial

Let it go dude. You lost the thread a long time ago. Now you just seem pathetic.

For some reason you have seemingly been offended by this thread.

Wrt this type of thread, its not about winning or losing. There is no disagreement as to the fact that there were numerous cases of Muslims saving Jews during the WW2. The only point that can be debated is the numbers game.

That being said problems arise when folks try and discredit the topic of Muslims saving Jews during WW2 by noting that Yad Vashem is the only go to source of identifying who saved who during the war. This is not the case whatsoever, there are many organizations that have honored folks for saving Jews and non Jews who were targeted by the SS/SS collaborators.

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04-17-2014 , 09:48 AM

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Antisemitism became considerably more widespread after WWII when Britain became more overtly supportive of an independent Jewish State, which was seen potentially as a Western proxy in the region.

There were pogroms against the Jews for centuries. Islam anathematizes Jews (and everyone else).

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04-23-2014 , 10:25 AM

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http://www.projetaladin.org/en/en-passport.html

On Wednesday, May 18, during the 64th Cannes Film Festival, more than 250 people in a packed cinema applauded Turkish director Burak Arliel’s “The Turkish Passport,” the first docudrama about the Holocaust produced in a Muslim country that relates the little-known story of the rescue of hundreds of Jews in Nazi-occupied France by Turkish diplomats.

Above is a preview for a documentary film titled The Turkish Passport, which includes interviews with surviving Jews from the times such as Lazare Rousso, Bella Lustyk, Marcelle Arditti, Louise Behar, are more. We also see an interview with Selahattin Ülkümen's(Turkish diplomat who saved Jews) son, discussing the actions of his father.

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04-27-2014 , 12:25 PM

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On July 16 and 17, 1942, nearly 13,000 Jews—4,000 of them children—were rounded up in Paris to be sent to concentration camps. Only 30 survived the war, none of them children. Those who escaped the initial dragnet remained in constant danger.

Berkani discovered a leaflet that was distributed among Algerian Muslims in Paris at that time. It expresses, simply but eloquently, the sense of solidarity that bridged the religious divide:

Yesterday, at dawn, the Jews of Paris were arrested—the old people, the women, and the children. They are in exile like us, workers like us. They are our brothers, and their children are our children. If any of you see these children, you must give them asylum and protection, for as long as these times of misfortune last.

http://www.thehandstand.org/archive/...cles/paris.htm

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09-14-2014 , 10:00 AM

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PBS has recently aired a docudrame on Noor Inayat Khan, a British Indian Allied SOE Agent who worked in Nazi occupied France.

The full video can be seen here,

http://www.pbs.org/program/enemy-reich/

About the Program

In August 1943, the last surviving clandestine radio operator in Paris desperately signaled London for additional weapons and explosives for the French underground. She knew her time was limited. Within a month, she too would be taken.

Enemy of the Reich: The Noor Inayat Khan Story is the story of one woman’s extraordinary courage, tested in the crucible of Nazi-occupied Paris. With an American mother and Indian Muslim father, Noor Inayat Khan was an extremely unusual British agent, and her life spent growing up in a Sufi center of learning in Paris seemed an unlikely preparation for the dangerous work to come. Yet it was in this place of universal peace and contemplation that her remarkable courage was forged.

In 1940, when the Nazis invaded of France, Noor fled Paris with her family to England, where she trained as a wireless operator in Britain’s Women’s Auxiliary Air Force. In early 1943, she was recruited as a covert operative, into Winston Churchill's Special Operations Executive (S.O.E). Churchill’s orders were to “Set Europe ablaze” through sabotage of railroads and factories, and support of the French underground’s direct attacks on Nazi units in preparation for the D-Day invasions.

After the betrayal and arrest of her entire network, Noor became the only surviving radio operator linking the British to the French Resistance in Paris, coordinating the air-drop of weapons, explosives and agents, and supporting the rescue of downed allied fliers.

The life expectancy of a radio operator in Paris was only six weeks before the Nazi radio-hunting trucks would track them down. But Noor survived four months, constantly on the move, before she was finally betrayed by French a collaborator. She resisted a brutal interrogation by the Gestapo, escaping twice—only to be recaptured. For her intransigence, Noor was sent to Germany where she was executed at Dachau.

It is a story not only about the drama of fighting the Nazis—the brutality of the Gestapo, deception, betrayal and escape—but also about the deep moral imperative that defined this young woman throughout her struggle.

Noor Inayat Khan became one of the most decorated agents of the British S.O.E. After the war she was posthumously the awarded the George Cross, the highest civilian medal given for bravery and sacrifice in Great Britain. The French awarded her the Croix de Guerre with Gold Star. A plaque in her name hangs at Dachau today. In 2013, a memorial statue was erected in London’s Gordon Square.

Narrated by Academy Award winning actress Dame Helen Mirren, Enemy of the Reich was produced and directed by three-time Emmy Award winner and Academy Award nominee Robert H. Gardner.

Noor Khans nephew talks about how Noors morals( in part influenced by her Muslim father, who was a "Mystic" Sufi Imam) were what prevented Noor from giving any information to the SS. Which goes to say a TON about the courage of Khan, one can only imagine the brutality of being in the clutches of the SS/SS Collaborators. There is no record of Khan giving any information to the SS, which goes to show that Khans morals were amazing, eventually, Khan would be executed in a Nazi concentration camp.

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