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DVDRIP · 05-17-2012, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tarpiean

Actually, TR came back because he believed that Taft had betrayed him.

+1

WunderlustKing · 05-17-2012, 10:27 AM

Lincoln FTW!!! mutthafuka killed vampires and ****

FLAGG LIVES · 05-17-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cowboyeyes

Truman and Nixon come to mind as they were reportedly plus ev grinders.

So was Harding apparently.

I'll go Washington or Jefferson, with Lincoln and FDR at 3/4.

Polk/Wilson/Coolidge rounding out the top 7.

eeezzzz · 05-18-2012, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WunderlustKing

Lincoln FTW!!! mutthafuka killed vampires and ****

lol

Dylan Poppy · 05-21-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WunderlustKing

Lincoln FTW!!! mutthafuka killed vampires and ****

Hahahaha I lol'd really hard.

neverfoldthe1outer · 05-24-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Francis M.H.

Bolded is extremely dubious. FDRs economic policies actually made the depression worse, WW2 is what brought us out of it. Also, unemployment for African American males has gone up since minimum wage was introduced. Finally, saying that FDR was the reason ww2 was won would anger many Russians and Truman was president when Japan was defeated.

I vote Lincoln

revisionist ITT

neverfoldthe1outer · 05-24-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FLAGG LIVES

So was Harding apparently.

I'll go Washington or Jefferson, with Lincoln and FDR at 3/4.

Polk/Wilson/Coolidge rounding out the top 7.

Coolidge? That is just insane. Bottom 5 for sure. In no particular order;

1. Hoover
2. Harding
3. Coolidge
4. Andrew Johnson
5. Carter

Easily the worst 5 ever.

neverfoldthe1outer · 06-04-2012, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by neverfoldthe1outer

Coolidge? That is just insane. Bottom 5 for sure. In no particular order;

1. Hoover
2. Harding
3. Coolidge
4. Andrew Johnson
5. Carter

Easily the worst 5 ever.

with Reagan, W., Grant, Pierce, and Buchanan rounding out the bottom 10.

FLAGG LIVES · 06-04-2012, 03:38 PM

Grant / Buchanan were 1,000,000x worse than Johnson/Coolidge. Even Jimmy Carter shouldn't be bottom 5.

My bottom 5, no order:

1. Grant
2. Buchanan
3. Harding
4. must be pre 1990
5. B. Harrison

Hoover / Fillmore / Taylor / Reagan are somewhere down there, too.

NiceHandDonk · 06-09-2012, 11:29 AM

1. FDR- Prolly the most important president as far as turning us into the country we currently are
2.George Washington- Revolutionary
3.Thomas Jefferson- Changed the face of the country more than any other
4.Abe Lincoln-Saved the Union
5.Teddy Roosevelt- Coolest president ever. Dude was a GO-GETTER

steelhouse · 06-18-2012, 03:49 AM

There is a thread in politics where they are voting on the best president.

Username_ · 07-09-2012, 11:52 AM

I recently did quite a bit of work on Roosevelt and Hoover in regards to their attempts at mitigating the effects of the depression.

Here's a very brief summary of some of Roosevelts key acts from First and Second New Deal. Thought someone might be interested.

Again, this is obviously just a very short summary.

Username_ · 07-09-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by moyles10

I'm an English student studying American and European History for the last 2 years at University and 2 years prior to that in college. I've had numerous discussions with people about their opinions on the greatest American President and there have been several answers but the same names do pop up. The general consensus is Lincoln, who I rate highly but not as the best. Personally, Franklin Roosevelt deserves every bit of credit there is. The man brought an end to the economic depression that was ongoing in America and Europe, gave millions of unemployed Americans (mainly African Americans) jobs and welfare. And of course, he led America to victory in world war 2 fighting on two fronts and grew America into the most powerful nation on the planet. He did all this at a time of isolationism, which made things a lot harder for him. He also won 4 elections, an achievement that won't be replicated.

Share your thoughts.

Oh and I disagree with this. If anything the opposite is true, women / African Americans benefitted the least from his policies

LirvA · 07-13-2012, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Username_

I recently did quite a bit of work on Roosevelt and Hoover in regards to their attempts at mitigating the effects of the depression.

Here's a very brief summary of some of Roosevelts key acts from First and Second New Deal. Thought someone might be interested.

First of all, thx, very interested. Come post in politics some time.

Soooooooo .... they artificially lowered loan interest rates for housing back in 1934, and it was a flop. Aaaaaaand we're now in a ****hole of an economic mess because they tried the same ****ing thing. Nice. Nice.

"Prices cannot be raised without real economic recovery."

This is false. Inflation raises prices, and is actually detrimental to the economy, especially in high amounts.

LirvA · 07-13-2012, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Username_

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Emergency Banking Relief Act - "American capitalism had been saved in 8 days."

lol what???

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The Emergency Banking Act (the official title of which was the Emergency Banking Relief Act) was an act of the United States Congress spearheaded by President Franklin D. Roosevelt during the Great Depression. It was passed on March 9, 1933. This act allows only Federal Reserve-approved banks to operate in the United States of America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerge...ing_Relief_Act

Disallowing any Joe Schmoe the right to start a banking business is not saving American capitalism. That is a prohibition of American capitalism.

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The provisions of the act were as follows:

Title I

Section 2. To give the President the ability to declare a national emergency and have absolute control over the national finances and foreign exchange of the United States in the event of such an emergency.

Dictatorship. Nice.

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Section 3. To authorize the Secretary of the Treasury to order any individual or organization in the United States to deliver any gold that they possess or have custody of to the Treasury in return for "any other form of coin or currency coined or issued under the laws of the United States".

Government theft of citizens gold. Nice.

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Section 4. To make it illegal for a bank to do business during a national emergency (per section 2) without the approval of the President.

See previous dictator comment.

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Title II

To enable the Comptroller of the Currency (a post in the US Treasury) to take complete control of and operate any bank in the United States or its territories and to establish the terms and conditions under which bank is administered.

Fascism. Nice.

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Title IV

Section 401. To allow Federal Reserve banks to convert any US debt obligation (such as a bond) into cash at par value and any check, draft, banker acceptance, etc, into cash at 90% of its apparent value.

Section 402. To allow the Federal Reserve banks to make unsecured loans to any member bank at an interest rate of 1% over the prevailing discount rate.

Section 403. To allow Federal Reserve banks to make loans to anyone for up to 90 days if the loan is secured by a general obligation of the United States (such as a Treasury bond, for example).

The Federal Reserve prints money to pay off debt. This debases the currency and causes inflation and rising prices.

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Title V

Section 501. Appropriation of $2,000,000 to the President for carrying out this legislation. Section 502. (a severability clause)

Nice! Two million dollars from the tax payers to the president! Nice salary!!!

You say this piece of legislation saved American capitalism in 8 days? I look at this and I see a two million dollar richer fascist dictator debasing the currency and stifling American capitalism.

You're very wrong in your conclusions here.