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George S. Patton, without a doubt. He was the general Hitler and his command feared the most and Adolph Hitler would call him, "That crazy cowboy" in staff meetings.

The Japanese generals all lost, that means they weren't good. If you lose you aren't good. Patton won, he was good.

Nice myth. Got any German sources that back this up? Patton made very little impression on the Germans with his performance in North Africa and Sicily. There is nothing in OB Sud records that indicates any particular regard for him. Rather it is Montgomery who get the credit in German eyes. (And they were't all that impressed with Monty, either.)

The general the Germans feared most was probably Zhukov. To the extent that they feared any western allied general, they probably feared Montgomery the most. If you take a look at the quality of troops the Germans deployed against British/Canadian forces in NW Europe in the 5 weeks following the invasion vs what they deployed against the Americans, it seems pretty clear they saw the Brits and Canadians as the main threat.

This should come as no surprise, given that German after-action intelligence assessments repeatedly rated the quality of US ground forces in Italy and North Africa below the Australians, British, Canadians, French, Indians, New Zealanders and Poles (not necessarily in that order). They considered Americans poorly trained, poorly led, equipped with inferior weapons but supplied with lavish living standards.

Just ridiculous. Victory and defeat are products of many factors, only one of which is generalship. Japanese Generals lost becaeu fo factors beyond their control. Patton was successful in NW Europe because of the work done by Eisenhower, Brooke, Montgomery and Bradley, and the air force and navy, but most of all because of overwhelming resource supremacy.

The only time Patton faced the Germans on roughly even terms he was held to a standstill. Patton's biggest successes (with one notable exception) all came after somebody else had done the hard work before him and Patton was turned loose against negligible opposition. That one exception is the rescue mission in response to Wacht Am Rhein. That was a masterpiece of staff work, and Patton should get credit for having trained that staff and having the drive to keep things moving.

Patton was a one-dimensional general. Great as the operational leader of a cavalry movement. He never distinguished himself in any other role. There are a dozen western allied generals that were a more complete package, and countless better Russian and German generals.

What Patton was tops at was being over-rated after the war.

The Japanese lost. That means they weren't great. If they were great they would of won, like George S. Patton.

Repetition doesn't make an assertion any truer

Please don't feed the troll.

Btw. just in clarification, Patton wasn't even in TOP100

What about Japanese generals like Tadamichi Kuribayashi, a General who was respected even by his American enemy, General Holland Smith had the following to say irt Kuribayashi,

"I don't know who he is, but the Japanese General running this show is one smart bastard."


'Of all our adversaries in the Pacific, Kuribayashi was the most redoubtable


Kuribayashi was the commanding officer of Japan during the battle of Iwo Jima, one of the the wars bloodiest battles which included instances of hand to hand combat. Although the Japanese forces were vastly outnumbered, they fought valiantly and inflicted a high amount of casualties toward the enemy.

About 20-22K Japanese personal were around during the start of the battle of Iwo Jima, only a thousand would live. The USA forces(70K personal) suffered almost 7k dead. This goes to show that the Japan forces fought to the end, they knew that Iwo Jima would be used as a staging ground to bomb mainland Japan, so not only do I give credit to General Kuribayashi, but also credit(in terms of fighting ability) to the Japanese soldiers who fought at Iwo Jima.

The USA forces were expected to take Iwo Jima in a matter of days, it took almost a month to secure the Iwo Jima.

We're there any great Chinese generals? I'm guessing no since none of them had a chicken dish named after them.

Wrong.

Patton did everything in style.

GOAT

Twin pearl-handled revolvers. Cavalry breeches. Riding crop. Shiny helmet. Yep, the man had style.

And style wins wars. We all know that.