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12-26-2007 , 03:01 PM
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Most optimal way to learn and master hand reading? With that how to learn equity vs range?
experience/pokerstove obv.
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12-26-2007 , 03:17 PM
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I also don't have the right overall personality for poker. I'm a very passive person by nature. I don't like to cause trouble or upset people, and I'm very non-confrontational. I absolutely believe that your personality affects the way you play poker.

It took me a very long time to push my level of poker aggression to the point it is at now, still a bit lower than it should be IMO.
Hi Phil, I have a couple of questions for you. I can relate to your quote above, as I have struggled at times to be aggressive enough in 6max games. Can you elaborate on what you did to improve your game in this area, and what players or study material influenced you whilst doing so?

Re: your workouts, do you find it helps your game generally, or do you workout at a specific time (ie. before or after playing a session) to get the most benefit poker-wise?
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12-26-2007 , 03:26 PM
LadyMuck, i've studied this thing for some time, here is a hint - work outs are very essential if you want to maintain your best mind conditions - you need to keep your blood pumping throughout your entire body and also get it out of your brain after long sessions to relax. Obviously, having a work out before a poker session is a bad idea - muscles still require more blood, and you generally need more oxygen, as you start breathing faster, so you get less blood for your brain and won't be able to focus. The key here is to have regular work outs, to keep yourself sharp and allow your brain to relax a little bit. On top of that, working out with friends is great fun as well, another motivator oh, and being in great shape is very good for surviving long sessions - as your heart gets, let's put it this way, trained, and blood vessels get cleaner, your brain will get more "supply", providing for better focus, more efficient decisions, etc. But the most important thing, when you are physically fit, you can go though most stress-related situations in a much easier fashion, it is a pretty long story, but that's the way it is.

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12-26-2007 , 03:31 PM
Hi

Any chance you could say something about what factors you consider when you decide whether to flat call or 3-bet with a playable hand preflop? Also, I noticed that you said that you felt some people ended up 3-betting too much, because they usually took down the pot either pre-flop or with a c-bet, but when they didn't do this it cost them too much. I never seem to know what to do when an opponent 3-bets - often it is reasonably obvious whether to continue or not, but I'm not sure whether calling or 4-betting is better.Any pointers on what factors to consider here would be appreciated.

At lower levels, I've generally only been getting involved in reraised pots with premium hands, but as I move up, I'm getting 3-bet more often, and I'm not sure which hands are best to add to my range, and how best to play them.

Finally, if you have time, you were talking about how c-betting a very high proportion of the time after you raise preflop is unbalanced and can be exploited, especially in tougher games. Do you have any tips on how to balance better - should I be looking to c/r or check back some strong hands, rather than c-betting pretty much everything except when I want to give up on a pot, which works relatively well at low stakes.

Thanks in advance.

Simon
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12-26-2007 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by peten2toms
Most optimal way to learn and master hand reading? With that how to learn equity vs range?
I second this question, especially the first part..
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12-26-2007 , 03:37 PM
Thanks for doing this Phil, it’s been a fantastic read so far.

On to my question: Do you think poker is ethically justifiable? Sometimes what I do in poker seems no different to me from what a drug dealer does to make his money.

I’ve posed this question to a few of my friends and none have really given me a conclusive answer.
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12-26-2007 , 03:49 PM
WHAT ARE BANANA THIEVES AND CAN I BECOME ONE SOMEDAY?
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12-26-2007 , 04:08 PM
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WHAT ARE BANANA THIEVES AND CAN I BECOME ONE SOMEDAY?
http://www.truveo.com/Smash-Bros-Bra.../id/1729546837
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12-26-2007 , 04:34 PM
hey phil,

do you generally just jump right into a game or do you spend anytime watching first to get a feel for the game flow and specific player dynamics?

i'm sure thatthere is less need for scouting at the higher levels as the player pool is shrinking, but ppl still play differently when they are winning/losing so just wondering if you do this and if so for how long approx.

thanks.


ps: feel free to answer this in less then 250 words.
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12-26-2007 , 05:07 PM
what differentiates PA from other top players that you have also given props to but wont avoid playing HU with, like genius and whitelime?
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12-26-2007 , 05:12 PM
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experience/pokerstove obv.

HU and SH(3-4 handed) experience especially
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12-26-2007 , 05:38 PM
Phil,

First off, I've mentioned this to Apathy way back, but it was cool meeting you and all the other guys at the WSOP a couple of years ago.

I remember when you made the transition from sng's to cash and you had a lot of great posts at the time. A lot of old sttfers are making the transition to cash or have made the transition over the past two years. As one who has had an ongoing transition lasting about a year now, could you provide any insight now of what significant things you learned early in the transition that helped you out? For example, it took me a long time to get out of the habit of wanting to get to showdown.

Thanks for the thread, vvvvv awesome and continued good luck in the games.

Gtr
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12-26-2007 , 05:45 PM
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Hey Jman. I remember meeting you in Vegas at the Wynn two summers ago. You were with good2cu, playing 10/25 or something. I just wanted to give you thanks for making a 'well' post, and give you props for being one of the best. It was interesting to read how you related your poker style to your personality. Also, this made me laugh out loud because I think the same way:
If I reraise AQ and get called, cbet A98r flop, and the turn is a J, my first thought is '****, what if he has AJ or QT?!'

Do you still played scared like this? Is it really that bad to be a lil scared?

-Lee

This has to be standard psychology for all players. I know it's true for me and someone remarked in the full ring chat thread that it was true for them as well.
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12-26-2007 , 06:11 PM
Are you going to the PCA?
I claimed I could drink more water in a day than you and Max said I couldn't. Thoughts?
Also really good well you are a poker god etc.
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12-26-2007 , 06:12 PM
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Great work, ofc. TY

Phil is definately one of the most intelligent, humble, honest, and hilarious people Ive ever met. Living with him this summer was really one of the highlights of the wsop for me. (except for the banana thiefing incident that one night)



Oh, and Phil is VERY SIHB in his own unique way
I agree with Travis about everything which begs the question why are you thinking about leaving us this year T?

Second point, the banana thieving was one of the highlights for me, maybe you just weren't thieved in the correct manner

Lastly my question for Jman. I know you hate traveling but come to PCA this year,....period...question mark?
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12-26-2007 , 06:31 PM
Great well. I also wanted to add that I am banned from watching Deal or no Deal also
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12-26-2007 , 07:13 PM
My question has to deal with check raising innocuous flops. Lets say the flop is k 8 3 or some other flop that doesnt really hit your opponents range very hard often at all. So if you are making a play at a flop like that, what sorts of hands are you doing it with? Against a tricky opponent who picks up on this play, how often are you continuing firing through on the turn...the river, after he calls your check raise? And the same goes for the other way around, how often are you calling the check raise from a player who makes plays on flops like that, what requirements do you have to have, in order to continue or even make a play on the turn. How often do you just call to shove the turn, when you know he is going to bet? Or how often are you three betting over his raise on the flop?
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12-26-2007 , 07:17 PM
it seems as if this play would work much more often about 6 months ago. players are realizing that their opponents are cring innocuous flops with a huge portion of their range, and as a result decide to continue in the hand with a greater portion of their range. thoughts on this topic would be greatly appreciated. thanks
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12-26-2007 , 07:37 PM
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How did you approach Omaha to get good so quickly? I asume you haven't played long, so was it just a natural transition for you from NLH? Do you think your edge is bigger vs shortstacks or fullstacks? You can't really have that big edge vs shortstacks I guess, but it seems that's all there is in nosebleed PLO.
I've been learning longer than you might think. A lot of concepts cross over but it's a completely different game. I still have a lot to learn, but the nosebleed plo games have been pretty soft lately.

I'm much more comfortable playing PLO at about 40bbs in the big games than 100. If the game is very fishy, I'm comfortable with 100+ too, but when there are strong players like PA and nikki or brian, I don't like to be deep with them.
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What is your take on limping button HU vs a player who 3bets a lot, vs tightening up your PF range?
In plo or nl? In both cases I like open limping some buttons. It annoys aggro players, and if they don't adjust, you own them.
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12-26-2007 , 07:43 PM
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Do you travel much? Both for poker and to relax?
No, not much. I don't like to travel. I'm a homebody.

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Where do you c/r the turn/river as a bluff in terms of board texture/villain line and villain tenancies?
I wrote an article on river c/r's. It probably just came out. I dunno, it actually wasn't that good of an article.

It's hard to explain in depth, but you should be c/r'ing more turns and rivers, with bluffs and non bluffs, against players who bet them more. So players who bluff more/vb thinner. That's the main tendency to look for.

Board texture isn't as important as what you think his hand strength might be and what he perceives yours to be. Or I should say, that those things are the factors, and baord texture should affect those.

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Do you think 3 pair should beat 2 pair?
3 pair should beat a full house.
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12-26-2007 , 08:07 PM
What would you recommend the longtime SSNL players to focus on to improve ?
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12-26-2007 , 08:30 PM
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3 pair should beat a full house.
Does that mean having two lots of trips should beat a straight flush?

My questions: Will you ever write a poker book? Do you ever feel bad after taking a massive amount of money from someone at the nosebleeds and knowing that theyr now feeling horrible? What do you think a good study/play ratio is for an intermediate player?

Thanks. Great thread btw. Keep up the good work.

Dan.
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12-26-2007 , 08:44 PM
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3 pair should beat a full house.

this was a very firm rule in many of my old homegames
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12-26-2007 , 09:05 PM
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Jman,

First, it was cool meeting you throughout the WSOP, and I'm glad you ate the 500 balance at RBKs celebration dinner, I was sweating the flip when I realized you and I were the only ones with maryland bank cards at the end You're a stand up guy and it was a good time.
That was a good time besides the 2-3k i spent on dinner. I had 3 friends from home who I was paying for in addition to losing the flip.

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I was wondering if you had any thoughts on the pros and cons of playing online vs live. I assume most of your experience is online but I've often struggled with the idea of trying to get more live volume in. I've spoken to many 2p2ers, both those that play mainly live and obviously those mainly online, and was wondering if you felt there were any clear benefits/disadvantages to one vs the other that were worth discussing (other than the ability to multi table online I guess). Sorry if that question sucks, this thread kept me up an extra couple hours. Thanks.
TBH, I don't think about this much. It's kind've a non issue for me. I could never become a live pro. Basically, I hate Vegas and I hate being around most people.

I think for most people, online is more profitable. You get sososososo many more hands in.

Live winrates will definitely be higher for most, so swings will be lower, which might be nice mentally. But the long run takes longer.

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edit: thought of another question. I know cash games are generally the way to go in terms of really "learning how to play poker" and attainable earns long term, but, having experience with tournaments, can you tell me why you still play them given that cash is generally "the way to go" at this point in your career I would imagine? Or more broadly, why a good cash game player should play tournaments if at all (even if in low volume)?
I play tourneys mostly for fun, though they never turn out to be much fun.

I guess the thrill of a big score is exciting, and making a TV final table or two could lead to recognition/sponsorships/book deals or something.

If you don't enjoy playing tourneys, and you don't care too much about those things, definitely don't do it IMO.
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12-26-2007 , 09:47 PM
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This one is kind've a vague question. It depends how you measure success. I suppose though, in all ways you might measure it, I won't be as successful as I otherwise could be if I had more motivation.

I don't think there is a whole lot I can do about it though. I know a lot of people think lazy people are kind've pathetic, but I don't think it's as easy for me to be motivated to do things as it is for most people. What I mean is, I don't think it's as much my fault as most people probably do.

I think a lot of laziness is just part of the personality that you are born with. I've always been the way I am. Was always bored and unable to focus in school.
Phil,

You may already understand all of what I'm about to say, especially since you studied philosophy yourself, but you didn't mention it, so I will.

Speaking as one of many on this forum no doubt who are in the same situation, and as someone who has studied a lot of philosophy regarding this situation, what you should realize is that your laziness is highly correlated with your natural tendency towards happiness.

Obviously you've already come to terms with your lack of extreme motivation, but it's even easier to appreciate and understand when you realize that if you were highly intelligent and also had the motivation usually required to achieve truly great things, you would very likely be a much less happy person naturally. Of course it's not a choice, you were born the way you were. But if you could choose? easy decision imo.

Most of the truly great art, philosophy, and achievement has come from unhappiness and a feeling of emptiness. Do not regret that your extreme intelligence is not producing any. Feel blessed that your parents gave you the natural gifts to enjoy life easily, and that you will be able to pass those gifts on to your kids.

T
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