So i join his 10-20 table and ask for some flips, he says ok..

I ship first on my button and he calls, I win.
Then I sit out and asks for another 1k flip, he agrees.
This is the chat before the second flip:

xxx: one more?
26071985: yeah
xxx: ok full amount?
26071985: u ship first?
xxx: ya sure
xxx: full amount
xxx: gl
Dealer: A new game will start in 15 seconds
26071985: full amount

He obv gets the button this hand, and he ships... I fold obviously cuz we stated that I was gonna ship first, on my button.. I do say that I want to ship first, because I am not known in the HSNL, and it makes it more fair, so that I cant fold and just leave without anything happening.



xxx: this isnt a flip right? its next
xxx: ur just levelling right
Dealer: Regular time for player xxx has expired, TIME BANK has been activated
26071985: it is
xxx: no
26071985: we said flip
26071985: if u scam me
xxx: u said
xxx: "u ship first?"
xxx: i said "ya sure
26071985: u get 2=2 note
xxx: i got chat log dude
26071985: man...
Dealer: xxx, it's your turn. You have 8 seconds to act
26071985: call
xxx: no, its next
Dealer: xxx has timed out - hand is folded


He then somewhat agrees that im right and asks for another 1k flip..
We do the flip(where I ship first, as we always agreed on) and he calls
with k9. I win this one aswell, and we agree on yet another 1k flip.. We agree that I should ship first, as always.. I ship my button, he folds and calls me scammer.....

I kinda think that he was looking to scam me the whole way there, he just picked up pretty good hands every BB so he could call me the first two flips..
then he folds the third when he has junk.. Who is the douchebag here?

fwiw he said he had AQ when he shipped "out of turn", which makes him seem even more scummy

god wtf is wrong with people

if it happened exactly the way you described 260171985 is clearly total scum

ya I got chat logs and screenshot of the chat in case he comes here and spread bull****:P

might as well post the screenshots and his 2p2 name if ur gonna post this

Ait, dno what his 2+2 screenname is, but he should be fairly known, since he said he would report me on 2+2 himself if i folded...

anyway here is 2 screens:

K, dno why the first one doesnt work, but guess the one that works is enough.. Also dno why I blacked my nick out=P

he is 100% a scummy douchebag do everything in your power to ruin his life

His 2p2 SN is umauma: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/218720/

i dont understand why you needed to ship first

Cause im not a reputable(?) hsnl reg, and its way easier to just let me ship first so that it will be a good and safe enviroment, so there wont be any screwups or anything. Since I know(now thought) that a hsnl reg wouldnt be a douchebag and just fold and leave, like an unknown possibly could do.

Its way easier for an unknown to be a ****** and just fold and leave, without caring anything about being outed on 2+2/or any other forum for it.

Thats my reason for always wanting to ship first, especially if I sit down on a hsnl reg and ask for flips. This sounds reasonable right?
Bascially I just do it to be "nice" and fair.

because he's an unknown quantity

people do not want to get grimstar'd

so the unknown flip requester will ship first

and the person that's more known with a reputation to uphold will call

i dont know whether hes trying to angle you here, but the guy is definitely a douchebag. if u sit at a table with him where he's playing a fish he'll flat out lie and say it's hu even though the fish has not said a thing to that effect (i dont think he realises that on stars when u sit on a table u can see the chat from before u sat down lol)

happened to me too

+100000000

seriously i didnt even read this thread but i almost made one similar yesterday bc this dude is a massive douche.

also he abuses the stars 2 tables per game type rules so plz report him at every opportunity.

also he grims when he gets the button first and doesn't want to play

also hes pretty awful at poker and if you have half a brain you should def play him and take all his money.

ok thats all for now.

/drunk

if he had a hand, he would have limped, you shoved and him call.

I don't think it's scummy at all and probably a miscommunication, or at least he didn't think it mattered who goes first.

26071985 is the biggest waste of life on stars. what a leeching scumbag. everyone should make it a priority to harass him. these comments have nothing to do with this flip incident, but rather his general behavior, which basically involves ruining the lobby and ruining games he sits in.

yeah this happened to me too but I didnt respect it

I think it's pretty lame to behave like that tho. It's not that you have the right to exclusively play ppl when they just join your table, but some think it is.

yeah and you're a real model citizen yourself

Sure I am

FWIW i sat with this guy and he was afk so i stole all of his blinds and left him sitting out on all his tables.

also i dont quite get the second hand... why didnt he just limp or minraise and let u ship? especially if he had aq? i dont see how u could ever fold pre