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03-06-2010 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bombdiggity
sober i play a more solid game, can usually play more tables and recall hands better. stoned i usuall ymake alot of spewy plays, but have a better feel for gameflow and i think its easier to get inside opponents heads. another thing is i think that my game improves more when im stoned

Are u not contradicting urself here?
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03-06-2010 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jungleman
No, but rather when you are NOT high you are on auto-pilot and don't realize a variety of details, such as that of the arbitrariness of social conventions. When I've been high, I've noticed details like those of social conventions and thought "WTF WHY?"
Very much sums of my experience.
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03-07-2010 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JPII

Smoking alot everyday is def not good. Will always lead to weed/self hatred on some level in the end. And will leave ur head in a constant "fog". And really make u miserable. Cause u DON'T want to smoke anymore, but all u want to do IS smoke. Ur miserable when ur NOT high, but ur miserable when u ARE high. Horrible vicious cycle. Been there many times myself. The only solution here is to quit for a while, and when u start back, do it in moderation only. U'll enjoy it more anyway, and u won't go thru all the negative addict effects. Allow urself a "treat" after a stressfull day at work, etc.
i agreed with everything in your post but particularly liked the above quote. youre right about poker and weed too; some can, some cant, but everyone has a threshold where smoking more weed would result in diminished ability.

both kaj kyle and sa3 have taken me up on my bet (separately). im not gonna make this my blog or anything so ill only update sporadically if at all, but i thought it was worth mentioning that, oddly enough, i feel a huge sense of relief. often i would wake up and think, ok definitely no weed today, and then over the course of the day i would find a way to flip that into the exact opposite. with this bet i KNOW that 3 days of the week its just not happening and i dont have to deal with fighting myself all day. lets you get on with the rest of your life. i havent found it particularly difficult, in fact, its kind of made me want to smoke less weed in the sense that im much more content with not being high so i think about it less.
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03-08-2010 , 06:47 AM
I have a huge pet peeve with weed

Controversy
coughing vs rapperpuff vs slow exhale

Some people say coughing gets you more high cause it jars your lungs or whatever but it also forces it out which is sort of what your body is trying to do. This to me sounds like throwing up making me more drunk.

Which takes me to the rapperpuff (i dont know the real term) but where you take as big a hit as you possibly can and then blow it out in front of you before it can be absorbed. The only part that gets a chance to be absorbed in these 8 second drags is what they inhaled in the first 2 seconds, then they cough it all out. whatever, their rappers and being wsteful is the main point anyway.

Most people smoke weed as if they have no idea how the world works. They inhale as much as they can and cough it all out so as little THC can be absorbed as possible. I usually smoke so much less than everyone else. If I wanna get real high I take a few small hits and just exhale slowly throwout the next minute (by never fully exhaling). In the world of hallaballers it doesnt matter but seeing dumb hippies who cant afford **** smoking like rappers always annoys me.

Note: I think they actually do it exceptionally right in movies about weed. I suspect maybe stoners get it right and its the "drinkers who smoke" that always **** it up. Also the "pot heads" - people who spend all day talking about getting weed then buy a dimebag and smoke it all and get the minimum high from it. Luckily I havent seen many of these since college. ie the people who like being pot heads more than they like THC
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03-08-2010 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by riverspecialist
I have a huge pet peeve with weed

Controversy
coughing vs rapperpuff vs slow exhale

Some people say coughing gets you more high cause it jars your lungs or whatever but it also forces it out which is sort of what your body is trying to do. This to me sounds like throwing up making me more drunk.

Which takes me to the rapperpuff (i dont know the real term) but where you take as big a hit as you possibly can and then blow it out in front of you before it can be absorbed. The only part that gets a chance to be absorbed in these 8 second drags is what they inhaled in the first 2 seconds, then they cough it all out. whatever, their rappers and being wsteful is the main point anyway.

Most people smoke weed as if they have no idea how the world works. They inhale as much as they can and cough it all out so as little THC can be absorbed as possible. I usually smoke so much less than everyone else. If I wanna get real high I take a few small hits and just exhale slowly throwout the next minute (by never fully exhaling). In the world of hallaballers it doesnt matter but seeing dumb hippies who cant afford **** smoking like rappers always annoys me.

Note: I think they actually do it exceptionally right in movies about weed. I suspect maybe stoners get it right and its the "drinkers who smoke" that always **** it up. Also the "pot heads" - people who spend all day talking about getting weed then buy a dimebag and smoke it all and get the minimum high from it. Luckily I havent seen many of these since college. ie the people who like being pot heads more than they like THC

ban
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03-08-2010 , 11:26 AM
i only smoke on days that end with Y
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03-09-2010 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by riverspecialist
I have a huge pet peeve with weed

Controversy
coughing vs rapperpuff vs slow exhale

Some people say coughing gets you more high cause it jars your lungs or whatever but it also forces it out which is sort of what your body is trying to do. This to me sounds like throwing up making me more drunk.

Which takes me to the rapperpuff (i dont know the real term) but where you take as big a hit as you possibly can and then blow it out in front of you before it can be absorbed. The only part that gets a chance to be absorbed in these 8 second drags is what they inhaled in the first 2 seconds, then they cough it all out. whatever, their rappers and being wsteful is the main point anyway.

Most people smoke weed as if they have no idea how the world works. They inhale as much as they can and cough it all out so as little THC can be absorbed as possible. I usually smoke so much less than everyone else. If I wanna get real high I take a few small hits and just exhale slowly throwout the next minute (by never fully exhaling). In the world of hallaballers it doesnt matter but seeing dumb hippies who cant afford **** smoking like rappers always annoys me.

Note: I think they actually do it exceptionally right in movies about weed. I suspect maybe stoners get it right and its the "drinkers who smoke" that always **** it up. Also the "pot heads" - people who spend all day talking about getting weed then buy a dimebag and smoke it all and get the minimum high from it. Luckily I havent seen many of these since college. ie the people who like being pot heads more than they like THC
anyone who says coughing gets you more high is full of ****. the truth is that when you inhale thc gets absorbed into your body extremely fast(i think 2 or 3 seconds) so theres little difference in 5 seconds and 5 minutes.

there is a pot doctor called dr. jay who says the best technique is to inhale for a few seconds then exhale 1/3 your hit then inhale again, then exhale another 1/3 then inhale, then exhale completely
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03-09-2010 , 08:56 AM
i play pretty bad since i started smoking again, this said it's better than alcohol...
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03-09-2010 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by super skunk
there is a pot doctor called dr. jay who says the best technique is to inhale for a few seconds then exhale 1/3 your hit then inhale again, then exhale another 1/3 then inhale, then exhale completely
Wow, this is why he is a pot doctor and not a real doctor. If you constantly hold your tokes in for long periods you are increasing the risk of developing bullous emphysema. They have linked this to heavy mj users and cases have been found in patients in their 20's.

"1. A pathological condition of the lungs marked by an abnormal increase in the size of the air spaces, resulting in labored breathing and an increased susceptibility to infection. It can be caused by irreversible expansion of the alveoli or by the destruction of alveolar walls.
2. An abnormal distention of body tissues caused by retention of air."
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03-09-2010 , 09:15 AM
Whenever I play high I'm always really impressed with myself when I win a hand, whether its value betting, or picking off a bluff, or w/e. Where as if I am just sober I wouldn't think anything of it.

But high its like, "OMFG I KNEW HE HAD AJ I"M THE ****ING BEST EVER!!11!!!" etc.
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03-09-2010 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Snoop Todd
i agreed with everything in your post but particularly liked the above quote. youre right about poker and weed too; some can, some cant, but everyone has a threshold where smoking more weed would result in diminished ability.

both kaj kyle and sa3 have taken me up on my bet (separately). im not gonna make this my blog or anything so ill only update sporadically if at all, but i thought it was worth mentioning that, oddly enough, i feel a huge sense of relief. often i would wake up and think, ok definitely no weed today, and then over the course of the day i would find a way to flip that into the exact opposite. with this bet i KNOW that 3 days of the week its just not happening and i dont have to deal with fighting myself all day. lets you get on with the rest of your life. i havent found it particularly difficult, in fact, its kind of made me want to smoke less weed in the sense that im much more content with not being high so i think about it less.


Awesome, good for u dude.

Self control takes courage and having enough intelligence and introspection to know that u NEED to control urself. U will only benefit from it over the course of ur whole life if u can keep it to a minimum.

U will get the good it has to offer, and very little, if any, of the bad it has to offer. And if u Vaporize u can cut out almost ALL, if not ALL (from what they say) of the negative/harmfull effects that any type of smoke inhalation has on ur body. GL w/ ur bet. J
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03-12-2010 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by super skunk
anyone who says coughing gets you more high is full of ****. the truth is that when you inhale thc gets absorbed into your body extremely fast(i think 2 or 3 seconds) so theres little difference in 5 seconds and 5 minutes.

there is a pot doctor called dr. jay who says the best technique is to inhale for a few seconds then exhale 1/3 your hit then inhale again, then exhale another 1/3 then inhale, then exhale completely
i do the latter cause im wierd and i dont smoke daily. i dont know how much more **** you get from doing this but i get so much higher this way that i cant help but think its like someone saying "the buzz from 2 shots is less than the buz of 1shot x2, and 2 shots is less healthy" ok cool. but who does just 1 shot? misewell not drink

Also, 5 is the number of seconds i always hear from people say when trying to talk about THC being absorbed fast. but 5 seconds is AT LEAST twice as long they hold it anyway.

I always have people over and provide beer/food. If people just came over to my house cracked open a beer tilted their head back witht heir mouth open and just poured it all over themselves at least it would be hilarious and id put up with this for a year probably. but people doing the samething with weed isnt as funny. and saying "yeah but 5 seconds..." then doing 2 is like saying "to get durnk its best to open your mouth wide and pour it all over your face" but then when they do it they just close their mouth right away anyway.
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03-12-2010 , 12:59 PM
Originally Posted by jungleman
No, but rather when you are NOT high you are on auto-pilot and don't realize a variety of details, such as that of the arbitrariness of social conventions. When I've been high, I've noticed details like those of social conventions and thought "WTF WHY?"

Redgrape:
Very much sums of my experience.

Standard Pot head reasoning.
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03-13-2010 , 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ilikeaces86_
Originally Posted by jungleman
No, but rather when you are NOT high you are on auto-pilot and don't realize a variety of details, such as that of the arbitrariness of social conventions. When I've been high, I've noticed details like those of social conventions and thought "WTF WHY?"

Redgrape:
Very much sums of my experience.

Standard Pot head reasoning.
GAMBBOOOOOOL
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03-13-2010 , 07:02 AM
kinda like when u watch fear and loathing in lv when ur high and ur loike wtf did somene make this movie but u keep watching anyway
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03-13-2010 , 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ilikeaces86_
Originally Posted by jungleman
No, but rather when you are NOT high you are on auto-pilot and don't realize a variety of details, such as that of the arbitrariness of social conventions. When I've been high, I've noticed details like those of social conventions and thought "WTF WHY?"

Redgrape:
Very much sums of my experience.

Standard Pot head reasoning.
it has little to nothing to do with reasoning, more a matter of perception

is reasoning even altered/inhibited by weed?
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03-13-2010 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jungleman
is reasoning even altered/inhibited by weed?
are you high, right now
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03-13-2010 , 07:48 AM
i think i pplay worse high on avg

but i have had sessions where im high where i was the perfect amnt o fhigh and i was increidbly focused ( even more than adderall ) and played great. those situations are in the minorityh tho
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03-14-2010 , 04:26 AM
toking up has cost me nothing but money when playing high lol I swear its like the poker gods like to punish me for it seriously
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03-16-2010 , 06:28 PM
Do you guys do anything in particular that helps with your mental sharpness if you smoked (5 or 6 hours) earlier that day?
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03-16-2010 , 08:27 PM
would subscribe to a coaching site where all the coaches only made videos while high

calling deucescracked to make a 420 series?
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03-18-2010 , 04:02 AM
is it really exciting when u r on high and play poker? )
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03-21-2010 , 12:26 AM
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03-22-2010 , 02:08 PM
sometims I like it.
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03-23-2010 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tinodollaz
A friend of mine, let's call him shminodollaz may hypothetically be looking for both items itt title. Theoretically this friend may be willing to pay double market price for good shmarijane in Orlando fl This friend would ideally like to find something by tomorrow and would def hook up significantly anyone who could help him out in the Orlando/ lake buena vista area. Pm me to talk believe me this hypothetical friend would make it well worth your while
and this thread reaches a new low
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