LOl at this thread

guys saying they can play better, or think deeper and/or do best hand analyses when high, are people who started smoking 1year ago and still think they do everything better when they are high. this happens because when you are high, simple things seems amazing. sometimes after a T-break i smoke in my room and my room seems AMAZING. take a look at my bed, '' WOW, WHAT AN AMAZING BED!! AND LOOK AT THAT, WHAT A AWESOME WALL!!! OMG, ITS A WHITE WALL!!! WHAT A COOL WALL... ITS WHITE!!! '' my bed isn't awesome, my wall, come on, its just a white wall, but while high, simple things looks great. so, when you play poker high, if you make a standard move (like flat pf vs a 3b w 86s, float flop A93r and bet turn) and you win, you will think this play is the best play ever. you forgot this is a standard play, and at that time you will think you are great, you play very very good, you have guts, you are reading villain's soul etc etc. but for real, you just made an standard move.

i used to play all my sessions high (i learned poker while high, actually i used to live high lol) and i am sure i would be a better player if i used to play sober and smoke less hash/weed. anyway, i like smoke and play while high because i am able to play more hands while high, i made a LOT of sessions just because i was high... i mean, sometimes poker can get boring, but if you smoke, listen music and play, this has to be fun, even if you are losing. but off course, my hourly rate is lower than could be.

on 2009 i made one of my first poker sessions sober. to play, its waaaay better, i really play better if sober. but to deal w/ variance, its reaalllyyy hard. wow, was terrible. how deal w tilt/suckouts/downswing without hash??? impossible. i had lost a HUGE part of my roll because this...btw, one of my goals to 2010 is play 100% of my sessions 100% sober. i hope i will improve a lot doing this...

ps: can i post about a weed forum here? or is against 2p2 rules talk about other forums here?

you played better when you were high. ducy?

Why not play 100% of your sessions 85% sober?

i smoke every day xD

this is the realest post i have ever seen on weed. i agree 150% with this. I am taking a 1 month break after reading this, its so true

Some Guys statement about weed

"Well I am not intellectually active, actually I am really lazy in regards of intellectual matters! Like I hardly read a book and I Hate thinking since it frustrates me!"

Response

This is your problem, not the marijuana. If you don't think much or use your brain often, it's going to get sluggish and studying will seem difficult. It's definitely "use it or lose it" at play here. The good news is you don't permanently lose "it," it just gets rusty. Some get rustier than others.

There's a lot of misinformation about marijuana out there. I've analyzed both sides of the issue in depth. The reason a lot of long term "heavy smokers" have memory problems is their lifestyle involves using their minds significantly less than the average person. Marijuana makes you tired and lazy for several hours after you've smoked it, and if you're a heavy smoker then you're lazy and tired all the time because you're high all the time. Over the years, this lack of using your mind starts to take it's toll, but you're not significantly worse off than another person who was mentally lazy without smoking weed.

Worrying about smoking weed 20 times causing you any serious brain damage is like worrying about that pack of cigarettes you smoked when you were 15 years old giving you lung cancer in old age. But I do understand your concern, there's a lot of exaggerated claims in the media and in schools about the effects of marijuana.

The risks of marijuana are serious, but not in the way people are typically led to believe.

The biggest risk is that it makes you lazy and content with circumstances you'd normally not be cool with. So you don't push yourself nor do you don't participate in life as much, which you're completely content with. It's not that the substance itself is addictive it's that getting high often is cheap chemical happiness and blatant escapism, THAT is what people get hooked on. If you don't have a strong sense of purpose, or have something you're passionate about in life, this false sense of contentment can keep you from moving forward towards having the experiences you want in life. You stay stuck the same person in just about every regard but the world moves forward without you. So even though you yourself are staying the same, you're moving backwards (a lot like if you were staying still in a strong current). And you wind up with the other people who also couldn't keep pace and you share their lifestyle. Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of these people are depressing losers who hate what their lives have become. It happens gradually, there's no sharp contrast to slap sense into you. It can happen to anyone if they're not careful, even if they come from a wealthy family, even if they got perfect report cards in high school; it doesn't matter.



On the flip side, if you've got yourself under control and have loads of passion in your life, it probably won't do you much harm. Smoke in your lungs, about as much from two and a half cigarettes per joint. No physiological addiction. Easier on your brain cells than a round of boxing with both gloves and headgear.

As far as the medical study cited, don't worry about that study confirming anything about the state of your brain. Those studies they do are ridiculous and the amount of data they leave out by the time into an article readable by a "layperson," it's just more misinformation. After smoking a "single marijuana cigarette," of course a person's reaction time is slowed. THEY'RE STONED.

It goes away.

There's always an exception to the rule. You'll come across heavy smokers who've got solid lives and are successful in whatever they wanted in life. But these exceptions are very rare, for every one of them, there's at least 9 depressed losers who are completely dead on the inside and hate themselves for it. And at least half of them didn't start out as losers; they had the same hopes and dreams as anyone here at the School of Phenomenal memory going the extra mile to improve themselves.

Both sides considered, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. But having smoked it, 1 time, 20 times, 300 times, that's not going to determine whether or not you'll do well in school or with this course. Nor does it say anything bad about you as a person.

I hope this post has put your mind at ease. Your brain isn't injured, it doesn't need to be healed; it's out of shape, it needs to be trained.

great post, ty

This is a pretty accurate description of being an adult.

nice post realy

This

this is NOT a good post. this is NOT true.

if you smoke 4-5times per day during few years, you will lost your memory. i do this, i have a lot of friends who do this and me and this friends have a TERRIBLE memory. ya, marijuana **** w your brain, this is true. i love marijuana, i love smoke, but i know this.

thats why i need T-breaks... last year i took 2months w/o weed after smoking for 4years everyday 4-5times per day. before i took 2months break, was hard to remember what i did on last day.. if someone asked me what i did on the weekend, was impossible to rememeber.

ask to anyone who smoke a lot, they don't have memory. thats standard. not because they are lazy and don't do a lot of things. just because mariajuana **** with your brain. I know a lot of guys who smoke everyday before work, they do a lot of things, they are smart guys, but they don't have memory.

you can smoke, its amazing, but will **** w your memory. off course, if you smoke rarely, like 1-2times per week, then marijuana won't make any damage to your brain, but if you smoke as a regular, then you will lost your memory.

and if you smoke a LOT, will become hard to read, to understand movies and things like that. if you are a stoner, you are reading something and in the middle of the read you ask yourself ''what i am reading? what happenned?''

but ya, mariajuana is amazing and very good thing.

Everything seems so damn weird to me when I'm high. Social standards in particular; after being high I realized that I (and everyone else perhaps even moreso) lack(s) an explicit interface for social situations and instead mostly rely on intuitive "understanding" resulting from experience. Anyone else have a similar experience?

^ meaning that when high in public you (or anyone) just go on auto-pilot (when social situations arise)?

No, but rather when you are NOT high you are on auto-pilot and don't realize a variety of details, such as that of the arbitrariness of social conventions. When I've been high, I've noticed details like those of social conventions and thought "WTF WHY?"

I've been addicted to weed for the last 4 or 5 years of my life. No matter what, I will find a way to smoke weed every day. With that said I've found that in general, the less weed I smoke, the happier I am. When I smoke too much, I start to hate weed. I get sick of it. Since the middle of last year, I have been making a very conscious effort to cut down my intake, and the results have been good so far. I have learned to be content without weed for most of the day. But I still wonder if I will ever be able to totally stop. Although I don't rely on it nearly as much as I used to, I still need it every day.

As far as poker goes, I've learned that for me, weed undoubtedly makes me a worse player. I used to smoke and play all the time but now I rarely ever do it. I lose my ability to analyze hands at any depth at all, everything is based a surface reaction. I do love playing and then rewarding myself after a long session with a good smoke, but I wonder if I am missing something.