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Delecto · 01-27-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theBruiser500

but in most countries it would be too dangerous to carry that 10k and prohibitive to play the poker in the first place. me and viffer and you were lucky to be born in the US as opposed to picking a country blindly from a hat... even if that means once in a while we have $59,000 confiscated from us by the police.

This is such a terrible argument and the exact opposite philosophy that this country was based on. If you recall it was the loyalists who shyed away from any conflict and told all of the patriots this: "it's all going to be OK guys, just let the British crown take our taxes, as long as we are left alone and aren't bound into serfdom like the peasants in Russia."

Now in 2008 there is an armada of american drones like you who just crouch away everytime the government takes away our civil liberties. FEMA, the patriot act, Homeland Security, the DEA, these are institutions established by the ruling order designed to take away our freedoms and control society. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves right now, this is not the nation they envisioned...

fds · 01-27-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Delecto

This is such a terrible argument and the exact opposite philosophy that this country was based on. If you recall it was the loyalists who shyed away from any conflict and told all of the patriots this: "it's all going to be OK guys, just let the British crown take our taxes without any sort of representation, as long as we are left alone and aren't bound into serfdom like the peasants in Russia."

Now in 2008 there is an armada of american drones like you who just crouch away everytime the government takes away our civil liberties. FEMA, the patriot act, Homeland Security, the DEA, these are institutions established by the ruling order designed to take away our freedoms and control society. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves right now, this is not the nation they envisioned...

Holy **** I agree with Delecto!!!!!!!!!

krmont22 · 01-27-2009, 07:38 PM

^^ cept its 2009 last time i checked

LetMeLive · 01-27-2009, 07:45 PM

only a poker player can lose track of the month/year

allurit · 01-27-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by skier_5

i thought monetary instruments counted as cash: ie checks, chips, etc

Checks 100% do not count. You can have $10,000,000 in checks and not declare them. However I am also pretty sure that you do have to declare gold. So there is some gray area there. Would be cool to get a firm answer in this thread, anybody wanna man up and call customs?

skier_5 · 01-27-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by allurit

Checks 100% do not count. You can have $10,000,000 in checks and not declare them. However I am also pretty sure that you do have to declare gold. So there is some gray area there. Would be cool to get a firm answer in this thread, anybody wanna man up and call customs?

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/va...kbyg/money.xml

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Money and Other Monetary Instruments
You may bring into or take out of the country, including by mail, as much money as you wish. However, if it is more than $10,000, you will need to report it to CBP. Ask the CBP officer for the Currency Reporting Form (FinCen 105). The penalties for non-compliance can be severe.
“Money” means monetary instruments and includes U.S. or foreign coins currently in circulation, currency, traveler’s checks in any form, money orders, and negotiable instruments or investment securities in bearer form

guess i thought checks because of the travellers checks. I've had actual checks counted at borders before tho

some of the euro borders seem to be confused with the regulations

**RoundTower** · 01-27-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by theBruiser500

what happened was terrible, but this isnt a point against america as compared to almost every other countryin the world america fares very well on these issues (whatever issues they might be)

Isn't America great? A government agent is given the power to confiscate 50k on a whim and there's still some tard bleating about how at least he doesn't live in Europe.

allurit · 01-27-2009, 09:10 PM

thank you skier,

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“Money” means monetary instruments and includes U.S. or foreign coins currently in circulation, currency, traveler’s checks in any form, money orders, and negotiable instruments or investment securities in bearer form.

I don't know what a flag is if its not a negotiable instrument. I think not declaring these will def carry a > 0% chance of getting f'kd pretty hard.

River Flush · 01-27-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by snagglepuss

god bless america

Sounds like a bad start.

HEK · 01-27-2009, 10:43 PM

such an awful story. gl viffer.

FatalError · 01-27-2009, 10:55 PM

I don't understand how they were able to take the rolex though, what was there excuse for taking the rolex?

Is there some limit to what they can take from you, is it just anything of significant value?

snagglepuss · 01-27-2009, 10:57 PM

fa,

pretty sure they can take your ass if they so desire

**ike** · 01-27-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jcmoussa

No I'm pretty sure this is policy. Something about it not being able to be used as currency. It's the equiv if carrying a 50k rolex, but in flags.

i wouldn't be confident that they have a universally enforced policy or that even if policy says they don't have to be declared that they can't still just seize them if they're suspicious of something. i'm not comfortable travelling, esp internationally, with lots of flags.

**ike** · 01-27-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FatalError

I don't understand how they were able to take the rolex though, what was there excuse for taking the rolex?

Is there some limit to what they can take from you, is it just anything of significant value?

i'm pretty sure its just anything. if they want the lint in your pockets its theirs.

m_reed05 · 01-27-2009, 11:36 PM

It seems like I remember some of the paper work when leaving the Bahamas specifically saying that chips were to be counted/declared.

Also, I was lucky. I left the Bahamas Sunday (although had a very early flight) and was through customs in literally like 20 seconds. Guy never spoke a word to me. Not hi, thank you, nothing. I probably had like $10,400 on me.