Hey guys,

I've been scammed and I'm 99% sure it is by a guy who hacked into the 2+2 s/n "scorer" whose UB name is "Cesta44"

Anyone who can get me in touch the real "scorer" (who I am pretty sure is legit), please PM me. His phone number would be awesome.

Thanks,

Garrett

So ya this ended up being quite a crazy morning filled w all kinds of detective work. In the end, with the help of Mark at UB security, and with 0 help from FTP, we figured out what happened.

Long story short, scorer on 2+2 aka Peter Adamczak is a liar and a scam artist who isn't all that good at it. Because he left the $4.7K of clean money I transferred him in his UB acct, I will be getting that money back. Thanks to everyone who PMed me info

nice hopefully peter the scammer ********* the **** *****. glad your getting your loot back

any more details on how u were (almost) scammed?

u end up losing anything? yeah UB is actually pretty good about this stuff vs ftp

So Scorer went for a score and failed?

i've recieved some random pm's from scorer in the past. did anybody else?

seemed fishy

yea, i received some really random ones dating back like 2 years ago. asking me originally about coaching i think(i never offered/advertised that i would coach someone thru 2p2 ever afai remember). then randomly he would just PM me and ask how poker was going. kinda weird cause i have no idea who he is or anything about him.

Just want to be a little clear.

Does this mean the "real" scorer is a scammer or just the person who hacked his 2p2 account?

same here. talked to him on aim sparingly like 3 years ago, and then blocked him cos he gave me the creeps. Have received a few pms over the last cpl years about xsfers or hows poker going thing, just ignored him. DIdnt think he was a scammer just a weird dude

I assume scorer sent funds from this ftp acc, driver9090



He is a longterm 50NL or 100NL player who has started playing 1kNL or 2kNL since July 29th.

He has actually completed a few trades in the past couple weeks. If u have traded with him, i would contact the site's security and try to get the funds reversed. These funds r likely fraudulent or chipdumps.

So in the end I somehow was able to get my money back, again because scorer (yes he is the scam artist), left my funds in his UB account overnight.

Read on for the details (kinda interesting story tbh):

The backstory is that I got 3 smaller FTP transfers from scorer today saying to transfer him the money on UB from email account redsoxhit1122@yahoo.com. This was after I had already made 2 larger transfers w/ him less than 12 hours ago. Because I was skeptical about him sending the money in 3 small transfers (esp cause FTP isn't strict like Stars), I didn't send back and started doing some research. Then FTP emails me saying they are freezing my account and to explain my relationship w/ the account feistygirl55, and at this point I have a good idea what is going on.

So obviously my first move was to do anything I could to freeze that Cesta44 UB account, praying some or all of my money was in there. Joe Tall (my hero as always btw, thanks JT!) was able to get me in touch w/ Mark who is high up in UB security after 2 other people at UB basically told me they couldn't help and I was close to giving up. Because I had some proof that I was being scammed, he snap froze the UB account and we both did research.

It's hard to say what scorer's plan was all along, maybe it was this mastermind attempt to make it seem like he was the victim of fraud. More likely however, it appeared that he was just trying to scam people through an elaborate money laundering scheme. From what I know, he would create new accounts and deposit the maximum ($600 or $1200) on FTP through the process of charged back credit card transactions. This dollar amount is relevant because it is exactly the amount these new accounts would dump to scorers real long term FTP account, which is driver9090, this feistygirl55 account, and probably others. If you PTR the driver 9090 s/n specifically, you will see he is a steady loser over the course of >2 years, and all of a sudden has gone on a 25K upswing in the past few days. All of his best friends during that upswing are new accounts, which is also true of feisty.

In my case personally, he transferred to me using the FTP nickname feistygirl55, not his usual FTP account. Yes it was dumb of me not to do research on this s/n, although I did do research on scorer before we did the transfer which checked out fine, even though I obviously had him transfer first anyway. Also, just because someone only has 1387 hands on PTR like feisty has doesn't really tell you w/ any degree of certainty you are being scammed, making this tough to spot.

Once this scheme went sour and his accounts were frozen, I think he realized he has a chance to pull off the "I'm just an oblivious 60 year old man who hasn't even logged into my account and was hacked" scheme. Obviously this didn't check out as I caught him in a series of lies when he had the balls to call me. He and I spoke on the phone a couple times. Specifically, his story about how the driver account was not hacked and "his cousin" just played on that was very fishy to me, and he was fumbling his words a bunch. Then I asked about a trade he did w/ NLSoldier, and he accidentally admitted he was in fact dallas1011 on Skype, even though before he specifically said he did not have a Skype account claiming "I live in New York, how could my Skype name be Dallas" lawz.

Anyway, once Mark from UB and I collaborated again, we figured out what was going on. Mark said when he talked to scorer, he fumbled over easy questions such as "Do you have a 2+2 account" and "When was the last time you logged into your UB account." Further, the only place his account was logged into was from his IP address in NY, even though he again lied to me saying "Ya Mark told me someone hacked into my account from Chicago."

Mark thinks pretty strongly that there was a guy in the background, likely a more seasoned scammer, guiding him through the process. He even thought he might of heard a guy whispering to him a couple times on what to say. From what others have told me about scorer (aka he's not the sharpest tool in the shed) combined with the fact that he was just a standard losing microdonk for many years who was never thought of as an elaborate scammer but has a shady past (read some of his older posts about offshore bank accounts, sharing training site accounts and other similarly low ethical behavior), this makes a lot of sense. Scammer approaches Mark and says hey if we use your 2+2 name, we will clearly look credible as scorer has almost 5k posts, has been a 2+2 member for years, and does have a bunch of successful transfers (albeit v small ones) to his name. Combine that with the credit card chargeback where he has no problem sending BS funds first, and you have a pretty good combination. With that said, it is certainly possible scorer acted alone in this whole thing, although it really doesn't matter too much either way.

I'm tilted by this whole situation and how much time I had to put into getting my money back and just being the ******* who gets scammed, but I decided it is important the community knows how this happened in order to prevent it from happening again.

holy cow man, glad it worked out for you in the end. That is crazy.

gman, you should clarify that last post, as it appears you are referring to "scorer" when you say "Mark from UB" at certain points. Unless everyone involved is named Mark.

Ya sorry I wrote that thing really quick. Mark is the security manager for ub and is obviously not shady and all and was extremely helpful in figuring this whole thing out. Scorer is the 2+2 name of the scammer. Use this complex guide to figure out if I accidentally call scorer mark and vice versa.

no its not, its standard....

that is what is crazy.

glad you got ur money back man. some people are such douches.

Glad it worked out Garrett.

Mark

Yeah glad you got your money. He PM'd me a while back for HU coaching also (I don't currently coach and haven't publicly posted about it).

The number of scammers seems to have gone up recently...

tuff economic tiiiimes

I have to thank Nat Arem for putting me in contact with Mark from UB. Everything was worked out quickly, as these matters are massively time sensitive.

Oh, and GMan, get scammed after I have my first cup of coffee next time, thanks. (Garret called me at 8AM! (well, yes, I was up, I'm a dad!))

No problem, glad I could help. **** scammers.

so sending second really does nothing to protect you? be very careful of all trades with relative unknowns even if sent to first

This is 100% the most important thing to get out of the situation, and something a surprisingly large number of players admitted they never knew when I spoke to them today.

+1...creepy