I also should say we recieved detailed logs of easychamp's play, and from the looks of it he had nothing to do with any of this. I couldnt find any evidence of chip dumping or anything, id rule him out.

i'm curious about rockstarla--he just randomly showed up very infrequently and just decimated people (myself included). i do not think he was a super user only because he played so infrequently, but if anyone has any info about him i'd be curious.

It is my understanding that both operations are from the same building.

They are much closer to each other than most people would have expected.

Can't seem to find it buried in this thread...

Could someone repost the list of possible super-user accounts, so I can check my PT for 'em?

lolol this picture needs more love.

awesome picture. I only glanced at it the first time around and just now noticed the chat. lolol.

I was brought up a few good points in a pm I recieved. Several of the biggest winners at the site seem to compose their name structure very similiarly. For instance, there is dannyboy55, 55washere and crackcorn55. All of these accounts are listed in the top bb/100 list provided by http://mypokerintel.com. The list can be found a few posts above this one. Also, players like flatbroke33 and whackme44 seem to also fit this category. Of course, this is not conclusive evidence that cheating occured on these specific accounts, but it does seem strange.

I also want to re-iterate what scratchy said earlier....

"I’d be curious if anyone has any hand histories on some of the other players listed particularly those with a lot of hands (flipflop2, rockstarla, etc). Check them out and see if their PT stats at all fit the profile and if anything looks suspicious we will try to get their hand histories. FYI some were '06 players."

lol, as if those three names (dannyboy55, 55washere and crackcorn55) couldnt be more obviously connected

same with the other names with the two numbers at the end


coinkidinks IMO

so looks like these guys could have taken like 5 million+ from UB ? so so sick.

Just a thought on perhaps a factor that may be some indication on the players on the ptb list that could use more looking at... i sorted it by session won % with at least 15 sessions... these are the top names not including already known suspects

SESSIONS WIN%
dannyboy55 22 83%
snowball 36 83%
SendMeMoney 16 81%
Xnomas 16 81%
FlipFlop2 58 79%
H_Curtis 60 76%
RockStarLA 56 75%
Broke_in_L_A 23 70%
Beeemer 81 69%

And if you want to look for name connections there is "sendmemoney" playing from 5/22/06-8/27/06 and "reimburseme" 9/23/06-10/11/06 with neither of them losing a full buyin in any of their sessions. Not to mention RockstarLa and Broke_in_L_A with Broke_in_L_A being created first lol.

Cliffs Notes?

FYP

all i can say is.. thank god i first deposited online at pokerstars..

I LOVE YOU LEE JONES

I also play on Ultimate bet and have myself down 40K to NYMobser and Sleeplesss. Just curious if anyone has heard anymore info from UB or Helmuth. Also, have you been able to get session history on Monnizle and NoPaddles yet from Mypoerintel.com. I remember taking beatings from the 2 of them as well.:

are these the type of stats we need to be mindful of?


Limit 3-5handed fwiw

UB looks really suspicious with these accounts.

What level would you find these guys?

All the high stakes games....10-20 NL and higher

mostly 25-50 Nl and 50-100 NL

WC

i think those are fairly suspicious. to win at such a high rate while showing down so little seems very suspect. when i sd at 30%, esp shorthanded at high stakes, it means im running like sht and getting crushed.

would be nice to isolate stretches with similar went to sd, and amount of players and compare winrates.

fwiw, heres some possibly strange stats. aph 2.71.

The following exerpt is taken from http://www.online-casinos.com/news/news6009.asp

From August 14 2007 over a period of 6 weeks certain player accounts were used to cheat other players in live games at Absolute Poker using software that enabled the cheaters to view the hole cards of their opponents, resulting in unfair play.

The accounts responsible for the cheating are named as Graycat, Payup, Steamroller, Potripper, XXCashmoneyXX aka SupercardM55, Doubledrag and RonfalcoXXB aka Romnaldo. AP has been directed to remove the individuals behind these account names from playing any role in future AP affairs, suggesting that those involved were insiders or closely associated with the poker room.
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SupercardM55, there's the "55" again. I don't know, perhaps coincidence or something to think about. Guys, don't play at Absolute or UB.

Oh yeah, and Trambo, why are you trusting Phil Hellmuth on this? Dude, he works for them!! You think he gives a flying F about "internet poker players?" He has high endorsement money from UB and he gets a lot of publisicm. He canot be counted upon to give an objective analysis of the situation because he just has too much involved in this matter. Please don't expect to hear anything from him than "they are investingating/ there's no superuser."

So now the next and obvious question that needs to be asked, " What makes you think that this is only happening at the games listed ? " How likely is it that there are "gobs" of super user accounts that can see hole cards and that can also see cards to be dealt ? How do we know the system that is running randomly isnt delayed by say a minute. What if certian accounts are given info to the hand results before the regular player is ? Who's to say that some of these sites know not much time is left and there is money out there that isnt going to be around for long.

Lets face it once the uiga bill really comes into full force most people arent going to risk a felonly to play online poker. The only way the u.s. market is gonna be saved is if its taxed and regulated. And if that happens Amercian companies are gonna be rakeing pots legit. So these companies based off shore know not much time is left for this mircale untaxable profit to be accumulated.

One can hope that these online poker sites are not gonna sell their soul for the almighty dollar. But then again mabey they sold it a long time ago ?? Only time will tell and truth always does come to light over time. The real question is are these super users everywhere, even down to the one and two dollar blind games that you would assume were safe ?? Man those games seem pretty tight and nitty now'a days.....

As for Phill Hellmuth and other poker pros, you reap what you sew. Its well known absolute poker has cheated its customers and tried not to get caught. In my opinon Mark Seif is guilty by assosication. Did he know what was going on ?? I dunno and it is true not every person guilty by assosiation deserves to be condemed forever. If Phill Hellmuth didnt know about cheating going on then may prayers for him be heard. All I know as vocal as he's been telling us to play at u.b and alot of these other pro's telling us to play at certian sites, well they better be brave if certian sites turn out to be a hoax...because alot of people wont stand to be cheated and they will put a face to the company somehow.....and once they realise they've been screwed who know's what they will do............

What are you talking about miloski? Phil Hellmuth has not been able to provide much in depth information, and the for the info he has given he has made it clear many times that he does not want to be quoted for it. I dont know where you're getting the idea that im getting a ton of info from Phil, I dont think ive once ever said that. UB is obviously stalling or delaying on releasing any statements, so whom am I supposed to talk to? Of course hes not going to be able to give an 'objective analysis of the situation". Its not like he is the one conducting the investigation. Its not up to him whether/when UB will decide to release their statement. To my knowledge, he is trying his best to push forth this investigation. To be honest he was surpised himself when he learned that UB has yet to make an official comment on the entire situation.

Hellmuth makes a ton of money through his good name. He gets invited to freerolls, gets books published with his picture and name on them, gets turned into video games, and in general plays off his celebrity status. As a result, I would expect him to act in good faith, because he can't afford to be seen as a lying scumbag.

FYP.

what's that stand for ?