So Ziplok, I'm still confused. You're saying you never made the bet at all?

No, but have literally no care if I'm believed or not and don't want to derail an interesting thread over the topic. If it's important to a few of you just assume I made it up and we can get back on topic.

he's at least conceded that it's Friday. let's start with that.

You claimed you won 4k on a bet where you might have in fact had the losing side. And now you're just like "Eh whatever, let's just drop it!"

Surely you must see why we're interested/skeptical right??

You betcha, I don't gamble on sports and know very little about it and odds as was mentioned. I was interested because I know tennis and thought Murray always wins that match on hard. Iggy contacted me regarding the initial bet an I did t take it. I was contacted by another member about the exact same bet and we worked out odds as I wouldnt take Murray to win 3 straight sets by a min of a break.

Ziplok: I got murray at even money

Others: No you didnt

Zip: Ohh, I actually bet 14 to win 4

Others: Who did you bet with?

Zip: I don't want to out someone who made a bad bet

Me: Bet didn't look that good or bad either way since every bookie offered that price or a slightly better price on Murray.

I was implying that if the price is widely available and if we assume that a pretty big market like a semifinal of a grand slam tourney is fairly efficient, then the price reflects the probability of the outcome of the match. That would make the bet close to 0EV or at least not a very good bet. Ziplok obviously disagrees and he might be right, but that's besides the point, isn't it?

I thought it was pretty obvious what I was referring to, but maybe I should have made that clearer. Sorry about that

Or are you objecting to something else about my post?

nothing that you are saying is making sense.

- iggy contacted you?

iggy posted his bet request in the thread. it got matched. you quoted his post and tried to book. $kill game told you it was already taken by someone else, and offered to book with you, he then PMed you.


- I was contacted by another member about the exact same bet

the 'exact same bet' you are referring to is murray -6. the same bet you go on to state (in the same sentence) that you woudn't take.

please clarify. maybe you had further private messages with iggy and/or $kill game?

I'm not believed and there are clear inconsistencies in my story, those are facts. I concede, I lied. Create another thread on the topic, 2 pages wasted in an interesting thread is probably suitable to my crime.

Well, you certainly aren't clearing things up by posting.

All I can determine is that you have lied about a large bet. If you are screwing a reg out of a bet, I suspect it will come out. If you are bragging about a 4k win that never occurred, meh, have a ball.

Whether I had the bet or not I don't think even -400 on Murray is break even. As I stated before Murray has a huge hard court edge againt ferrer as well as ferrer rarely making it deep in majors or having any success past the quarters. Whether I'm a liar or not I know the sport well, I think tres would attest to that.

I'm still very interested to learn just what level a player Antonius was. I don't think he could be much over a 5.0 and if Adams is a legit 4.5 I think his side at 11-1 is delicious.

what were the exact terms of this 4k bet if it was even made? just copy and paste the pm if you aren't 100% sure what you booked.

Just as an offhand comment, I always find it surprising how frequently the people who play/know a particular sport without being involved in betting, claim that the betting lines on their sport are lolbad.

Anyway seems Ziplok didn't really understand the -6 handicap. No big deal.

Please return to tennis discussions, I was enjoying them

I'm sure they are usually pretty bang on with tennis but I think in this instance they were pretty bad. Ferrer is a terrific player with his best surface being clay, Murray is an even better player with his best surface being hard. Ferrer is a notorious choke in slams while Murray has been there often and generally performed well. The only x factor would be just how much pressur Murray would feel with nasal and Federer out of the way.

Who are you guys taking in the finals? I think that is very close to a pick 'em but will be cheering for the Ginger.

cliffs: never bet with this guy

lol ziplock just stop posting pls.
also guys, i wouldn't worry to much about finding out who he bet with, he obv never booked any bet, has no clue wtf he's talking about wrt sports betting, and was just trying to claim he won "the bet" thinking it would somehow bolster his credibility as a tennis expert.

so hilarious when ppl lie about **** no one would ever care about.

No surprise to see king of the nvg tards jump on the dog pile and beat a dead horse, not sure there is a person alive who gets more enjoyment out of sticking to others than you. As far as my expertise on tennis or possible history in the sport, care to suggest some kind of prop bet to prove me wrong? Tres knows me in person so I couldn't really bs my way through this one.

lol?
i could care less how much you know about tennis....you're clearly a total ****ing idiot who lied about something no one would care about. so you could be the leading authority and guess what, no ones gonna care.

its pretty funny tho that you thought claiming you won a bet on murray over ferrer would make anyone think you knew about tennis.

BA can you make sure to record the match if possible. Would be interesting to break down the stats and details and be a valuable tool in developing a plan for a rematch down the road.

Yeah, I come across looking like a total ****ing idiot in this thread, if you had any ability to evaluate yourself as a poster and likely a person you would know your weaknesses as a human have been made abundantly clear on these forums over the years. Anyway, the thread was back on track so move on.

Regardless of anything rbk has done outside of this thread... This thread made you look like a complete moron, regardless of who you really are...

I've conceded that long ago, why the need to carry on stating it?

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No more derailing please you guys are ruining a great thread.
BA- I might end up escrowing to you 20-30k and then come watch you warm up right before the match to decide how much action I want. Is that cool?

Few comments--First off BA, get ready to deal with some pressure, looks like ur going to have a crowd! My only advice is don't expect Patrick to play bad or for you to get lucky somehow. If you don't think your ready to give yourself a realistic chance of winning, do something about that. If it impossible to schedule enough time between now and then to make some serious improvements then handicap the bet. As far as Ziplok goes, looks like you kinda dug yourself a hole but if you are who I think you are then I remember you being damn good as a player and not a bad guy, although we never really hung out much.

Way to make an ass of yourself... It was me he bet with.

And it was actually $400K he won, not $4K. He was just being modest. I gave him even odds because I am so wealthy a $400K bet is like a joke for me. I was hanging out with Elvis when I happened to read his post directed towards Iggy. I figured WTF, I don't even want the 6 games. Truthfully, had I realized what an expert he is with regards to tennis betting, I may not have made the bet. It's not like I care though. It was only $400K.