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03-14-2010, 07:21 PM
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#46
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,557
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
Yeah this is about the strangest response i could have expected.
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03-14-2010, 07:38 PM
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#47
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ON XMAS EVE, SAINT NICHOLAS COMES
Posts: 2,755
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
hsnl: "do you multiaccount?"
stoxtrader: "i dont do this, this, and this, none which answers your question. also, look how much money i make."
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03-14-2010, 07:43 PM
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#48
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 325
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
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Originally Posted by stoxtrader
There are online poker players who have used 2nd screenames for the purpose of deceiving others into giving them action, evading taxes, collusion, entering multiple times into the same tournament, ghosting, to obscure previous results and stats, to clear extra bonuses, to circumvent affiliate CPA or rakeback rules, to bypass the pokersites shortstack buy-in time limitation, to teamplay, to share action with others at the same table, to chip dump or otherwise engage in underhanded actions I do not know about. I have never done any of these things. Beyond that I cannot and will not comment on the screename issue, nor can I say why I cannot elaborate further other than to say that my reasons for that are serious and personal.
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I did use multiple screenames, but it was for a very personal reason that was not malicious.
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03-14-2010, 08:08 PM
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#49
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: bkk
Posts: 11,072
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
so you multi account for reasons other than listed above?
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03-14-2010, 08:09 PM
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#50
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banned
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,228
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
Beyond that I cannot and will not comment on the screename issue, nor can I say why I cannot elaborate further other than to say that my reasons for that are serious and personal.
Russ hamilton took it personally when people accused him of cheating and wished he hadnt gotten caught,
i just want to thank the mods that decided that all the acusations were false and for trying to cover this up!!!!
can anyone cross check the numbers of hands played to known accounts of his to see if he just admitted to multi accounting? i mean if his account only played a few hands but claims to have so many hands, ummmmmmmmm!!!!!
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03-14-2010, 08:21 PM
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#51
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 4,009
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
thats gotta be the worst response to a cheating accusation ive ever read
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03-14-2010, 08:22 PM
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#52
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banned
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,228
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
just for the record, i never thought it was bad to multi account, as long as you arent doing it to cheat. thats for a normal player tho, not some guy that claims to be a coach and a mod!!!!!!
stox, you should really refund all the people you took money from for training and change all your advertisments. or atleast contact all your clients and tell them you are a fraud.
is one of the reasons you dont want people to know how you play is cause if they knew they wouldnt hire you as a coach?
Beyond that I cannot and will not comment on the screename issue, nor can I say why I cannot elaborate further other than to say that my reasons for that are serious and personal.
i guess that would be serious and personal if it cost you money!!!!!!
fraud!!!!
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03-14-2010, 08:32 PM
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#53
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: San Diego
Posts: 27,271
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
i think ive figured it out. he had a sex change operation and rescinded. it meets all the qualifiers. thats all ive got.
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03-14-2010, 08:42 PM
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#54
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grinder
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Shipping and Receiving
Posts: 655
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
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Originally Posted by Nick Rivers
He was part of that whole crew for a while and now he apparently hates them. He would probably know if that's him, and probably wouldn't hesitate to out him.
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There might be reasons he would hesitate to out. Serious and personal reasons >>>
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Rivers
One has to wonder about games where mbolt, leatherass, 40putts, and kinetica were all sitting in. Rigged, I guess.
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Coaching/Training was a logical product to grow out of the poker market, still it's easy to see why someone who was at the forefront of squeezing every dollar out of the game that he could contemplate would ultimately be involved in other actions that only benefit him, and cost others money.
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03-14-2010, 08:45 PM
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#55
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: San Diego
Posts: 27,271
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
on a related note, why are we tagging kinetica/LittleZen(?) into the collusion accusations?
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03-14-2010, 09:21 PM
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#56
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banned
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: plannin my kidnap of Marissa Cooper
Posts: 3,091
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
it's pretty clear stox has played on multiple accounts. if he had not done so he would surely say he is 100% innocent and not "i can't comment".
now... if he multi-accounted, why did he do this? he says it wasn't to trick other players into getting action OR to bypass the ratholing return time. what other reasons are there apart from the ones he listed?
the same one that BT used about being embarrassed to be playing lower stakes? how about being hacked/unable to log into old accounts?
he's basically admitted to using more than 1 acct on ftp. it's for ftp to decide to ban him or not. however, 2p2 should not be accepting advertisment money from him if this is true imo.
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03-14-2010, 09:28 PM
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#57
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: flippin it on em!!
Posts: 9,443
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
its obv not bc he was hacked bc in that situation FTP allows for the name change. if that was the case he would just say, "i was hacked and FTP changed my SN for me". his response is ridiculous, he would have been better off avoiding the thread completely.
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03-14-2010, 09:32 PM
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#58
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veteran
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,320
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
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Originally Posted by stoxtrader
Beyond that I cannot and will not comment on the screename issue, nor can I say why I cannot elaborate further other than to say that my reasons for that are serious and personal.
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guilty imo
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03-14-2010, 09:36 PM
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#59
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veteran
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,793
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
Is this why leatherass quit stoxpoker? Or was that over something else?
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03-14-2010, 09:43 PM
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#60
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 9,603
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Re: Possible cheating multi acounting
Quote:
Originally Posted by viffer
can anyone cross check the numbers of hands played to known accounts of his to see if he just admitted to multi accounting? i mean if his account only played a few hands but claims to have so many hands, ummmmmmmmm!!!!!
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this, its the logical thing to do atm
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