I have reported skdekedari a bunch of times already and I'm still getting cheated by him every day at the 10 20 NL tables on 888 so now I am here.

888 only makes new tables when there is already a game going 3-handed or more. There is a Russian player, skdekedari, who has a program that automatically sits him at a new table that pops up. I am very willing to play him but he does not want to play me. He tells me to leave when I sit at the table. He claims that he should have the table, because he gets there first. If I post my small blind, he will leave the table and then come back until he gets to post small blind. When he post his small blind, I usually post my big blind since I am willing to play him. He will then play me for an odd number of hands, thus getting an extra button and I have to pay an extra big blind. He will then leave the table and come back and start over doing the same thing.

I have reported him a lot over the last few weeks, but nothing is being done. Today we played 26 hands. 15 of them were in my big blind and 11 of them were in his big blind. I even tell him that I am reporting him, but he just thinks it's funny, because he knows that 888 will do nothing. Hopefully something happens with this thread.

he should be banned. this is not acceptable behavior

Post here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hread-1076775/

Try to get in touch with:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/290780/

They will address it, but only if you get in touch with the right people. gl

Not only is he not getting banned, he is getting away with it. It is as if 888 support has very little knowledge of poker and does not even understand what the problem is. The following is the email I sent them in red, which was the third time I reported him:


Here is what happened today. I sat down at the table where skdekedari sat
down. HE NEVER STARTS ON HIS BB. It was going to be his bb so he didn't
post. He left the table and then came back...it was going to be his bb
again so he didn't post...left the table and came back. Then it was going
to start on his sb so of course he posted...played 5 hands(obviously and
odd number so that he gets more sb than bb) and then sits out. I tell him
I'm reporting him and his response is "np". I have already reported this
guy to you before. This is so frustrating.

Their response, which was a response to the email above in red, was the following in blue:



This is the Operations Team at 888poker and we are contacting you with regards to your account with username “MikeHatesYou”.

Thank you for your e-mail, I apologize for the delay in replying to you.

Michael, thank you very much for informing us about this matter. Although we have specialized software which monitors all tables and a team of experts who study the games closely, sometimes they are not infallible, and some cases may slip though the net. We do our level best to keep our Poker Room safe for our members, and always act on information given.

I understand your concern and would like for you to know that we do not tolerate members using the “Sit out” feature for taking long periods of breaks or just to be sit out not playing, this tool was designed for short breaks between extended periods of play so that members can grab a quick break from the game.

It is not intended for use while no play is taking place at the table, or for waiting on players to join or leave the table.

We will conduct a full investigation into this issue, however due to strict company policies I will not be able to divulge our findings to you.

Please Michael, inform us every time you find anything suspicious, it is a pleasure to have you as a member and we look forward to assisting you again in the future.

Should you have any queries regarding this or any other issues please feel free to contact us.

Kind regards,

Operations Department
operations@cassava.net

Does this sound like they understand? This response sounded more like what a response would be to an email concerning camping on tables, which is another issue, although not blatant cheating. It's just so stupid.

Thx I posted in that thread to link to this one. Hopefully something is done. This cheating is rampant.

its not only skedekedari...there are a bunch of ppl on POF who are mostly freehanding, solmir1,vaavere,futurisk,ua3530,surik_vaio....
i also reported them but 888 keeps doing nothing...

Yeah, surik is even more blatant with the cheating than skdekari. While skdekedari will play an odd number of hands to cheat the big blinds, surik simply does not post any big blinds at all. Great job 888!

Hello. I am an active user of the poker forums. I always used to believe users in similar topics. Unfortunately sometimes come across people in the story which mixed lies and half-truths difficult to discern from the false. For those who do not like to waste time, I will explain that OP is meant by "weeks and numerous requests" to a more understandable language for the player 3SB * 0,05 EV BB = 0,15 EV BB or $ 3.

Yes, you understood correctly. Due to the 0.15 bb OP wrote as many as three letters in support, registered on the forum and wrote 5 posts. Here are my stats



hu games OP 39SB 35BB. Fourth SB has been placed by accident on the collapsed 6-max table.
In the penultimate day of our game at the general equation (17, SB 17, BB) set the OP SB continued to demand from me SB for "Time of my everyday deception" and threatened me with letters of support (he did a lot of Multiples earlier). I twice wrote to him about the progress equality. As it turned out from the communication he has a HM. Unfortunately he has not found the time to open the HM at the time and give their stats. He simply wrote that the "Time of my everyday deception" has accumulated a few extra SB. In my opinion he wrote either about ten either about a few dozen. Unfortunately I did not keep this correspondence. Further chatting arose such a dialogue.

skdekedari
>>
17 bb 17 sb


MikeHatesYou
>>
pay it and ill leave u alone

I already very tired to engage in pointless correspondence through google translate in place of the game. And I gave once to play OP SB. Further, he wrote the following.

u played 5 hands at first table
MikeHatesYou
>>
3but 2bb
MikeHatesYou
>>
u gotta stop cheating dude
MikeHatesYou
>>
not cool

Then my patience is exhausted. The player constantly interferes with play me and other players. Is engaged in frank theft (see below) constantly threatened me. It Has +1 SB and still calls me a cheater !!!

Those who believe OP advise you carefully read his posts.


Namely: "There is a Russian player, skdekedari, who has a program that automatically sits him at a new table that pops up. "Please tell me where in OP this information? He installed a camera in my house? Hack a computer? Or simply come up with?

"I am very willing to play him but he does not want to play me. "OP went on here and read my thoughts.

Here is another quote OP, which makes me wonder about the safety of my computer.

"HE NEVER STARTS ON HIS BB '

In connection with these 0.15 BB can write a lot of tex. But what could be better statistics? Here are all my stats hu games in this room.



As you can see I'm more a victim than a villain.

I play in the showroom for about 5-6 years (OP is playing on my data to 05.27.2016) and have never written a complaint to the other players. But maybe now is the time to start. In this video you can see how OP harmed me and other players in the 0.25-0.30 EV bb or $ 25-30. After a session of one hand on the BU (3max table). On the table he sat a few seconds earlier. Do you think this behavior is acceptable?



Higher quality https://mega.nz/#!4wQVRIRb!zRo9TlTV9...8wMEj52neEctbM

Four years ago one player in a chat has written the unknown term "freehanding". This term isn't defined in rules 888poker and pokerstars. At a forum I have found a post of the official representative (as I have understood) pokerstars in which he explained a difference between "freehanding" (and other types of violations) and a fair play.
My behavior and before acquaintance with this information didn't do finansy harm to other players. After acquaintance with this information I have changed the game. I always thought that we will only apply the term "freehanding" to 3max + to tables. If it seems to you that my behavior
violates rules 888poker or pokerstar I ask to give the reference to point of rules or the message officially of the representative.

I play poker several days a week, but I can't tell on one nickname fair the player plays or not. I need to look at notes which at me are written down on the player.
I managed to look at notes on two players from your list. I don't see other players now. And I can't lie. Both players do real financial harm. One of them does it practically always, another is extremely rare.
For me financial harm is a line which I don't cross. I think I won't stand till the end the place in this list.

For the sake of an esperiment I have opened on favors of 6 tables. On them 6 players sit.
One of them sometimes behaves isn't admissible. (in my opinion) to Troy behave it isn't admissible practically always. To one I have no claims. One more plays quite recently.
Unfortunately none of them violate the rule 888poker.

skdekedari, I will play you heads up any time you want and I have never done anything to suggest otherwise. I never quit you. There is only one table available until the game gets three-handed. That one table is very often occupied by you. I sit you and you always tell me to leave. When I don't leave you always button me and keep buttoning me until I leave because you don't want to play me and you also don't want to give up the table, but those should be your only two options. Either play me or leave. If I have one table and a second one becomes available you can go ahead and have it even though I could just take that one as well.

You have instead created a third option for yourself which is to button me over and over until I leave. I have posted my big blind against you many times. You always play an odd number of hands and then leave and come back. You are scum and deserve to be banned. Play me or leave the table. I am in Vegas right now and don't have my data but when I get back home I will continue to sit you heads up and I will post in this thread how often you post your big blind and small blind. You and others are getting away with this behaviour for now but I am doing my best to bring it to 888's attention. I will also start posting others since you are not necessarily the worst one, just the one that I encounter the most often. As for whether or not you have a program that sits you at the tables, I cannot say for sure, but I would say it is extremely likely, like 99.9% likely that you do have a program that sits you as soon as a new table opens because I have tried to manually sit at a new table quickly when I can tell that a new one will open up when the current game gets to three handed and you beat me every time, despite me being very quick with a mouse. You have tried to justify it to yourself that because you get there first that you can tell me to leave, but you are wrong. I have the right to play and I choose to play you. If you don't want to play me then leave. Don't just button me over and over until I give you the table.

OP you forgot to comment on your videos theft?

I didn't forget anything. I ask that 888 looks into all my heads up experiences with skdekedari. 888, do something about this guy. He knows fully well that he has cheated me.

This is what I am stating:
When I sit skdekedari, if the first hand is on his big blind he will never post. If it is on his small blind, he posts and then often plays an odd number of hands. He then leaves and returns to the table a few seconds later. Once again, if the hand starts on his big blind, he will leave the table and come back until it starts in his small blind. He then plays an odd number of hands. He leaves and repeats the process until I get tired of getting cheated. I hope that someone from 888 support can confirm what I am saying as this thread is getting silly. Simply look into the history between MikeHatesYou and skdekedari and see if there is cheating going on with the blinds. 888Rep, perhaps you can comment in this thread?

This is 2016. I should not have to be wasting so much damn time on this. If such a thing was going on, which it did years ago, Stars would would ban this guy. Just look at the thread about another Russian player jama-dharma who got banned for this exact same thing.
Here is the thread where players complained about jama-dharma. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...harma-1329932/
Here is the thread showing that he got banned. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...thing-1351026/

Note that these threads were from 2013. 888!!! skdekedari is another Russian guy like jama-dharma, doing the exact same thing! Stars eliminated this problem and now you should too. Again, look through all the history of myself, MikeHatesYou, vs skdekedari and you will see that skdekedari is cheating the exact same way that jama-dharma got banned. If you also look in the chat, between us, you will see that I told him a bunch of times that I was reporting him and he still kept on cheating anyways. I have emailed you several times and now made this thread. I have sent you screenshots. I have asked 888Rep to comment in this thread. 888, do something!

Hi,
Thanks you for bringing this to our attention. The behavior that you are describing is unacceptable and unsportsmanlike and when we see evidence for such behavior it will be handled.
Please let us know if this continues to happen.
Thanks.

You can find our fair play policy here:

http://www.888poker.com/poker-softwa...se-rules/#fair

I begin to understand why you go to conflict with the players nl2000.
I never wrote, "I am the first. My table." I wrote "I made this table. Plz leave."
If you want to get a table and sit there alone. Take it slowly and go to it.
If there is already a player sits write something in the chat. The player will leave. The vast majority of players
behaves at all limits I play (nl 2k-nl 20k)

I just slowly opened the table, which did. You appeared at the table after 8-10 seconds.
I do not even know what happened to me someone is competing in the ownership rate of the mouse. You could ask the players as quickly as possible to sit down or to contact support. If by chance I'll sit down at the table art created by another player. I go out and most of the other players.
I do not compete with anyone not speed.

99.9% probability. Are you seriously ? Do you consider yourself an objective?

Why should I spend so much time out in 3 SB ($ 3) ?!! . While I did put SB 1300 is more than my opponents.

Note that he has not denied that that he has cheated me as I stated. You post your small blind, play an odd number of hands...leave come back...if it's your big blind you do not post...keep leaving and coming back until you get to post you small blind...play an odd number of hands...repeat repeat. Do you deny that you have done this to me a bunch of times?

Why don't you just quit sitting his ass and join once a 2nd player joins.

You're asking me why I would prefer to already be sitting in at a table when another player joins, rather than staring at the lobby/table until one joins?

Convenience for starters. Also, I like to get some heads up action which I won't be able to get much of if I'm always joining third. That heads up action can be against skdekedari or any other reg for all I'm concerned. I sit anybody, but skdekedari has resorted to cheating so I've made this thread.

I'm glad that you agree that this behavior is unacceptable and unsportsmanlike. I actually was not sure if that was the case since this behavior is rampant at the shove or fold tables. You say that when you see evidence of it that it will be handled. I have emailed you plenty of evidence so at what point is it handled? Note that if such cheating was happening on Stars in 2016, it would be dealt with within a day or two.

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I am finally back from Vegas after a long trip and am posting the results from the day when I started this thread. As you can see, skdekedari buttoned me four times in a short amount of hands. He is scum.

Good investment of time on all parties involved.


From 4 years ago.

Would be an excellent solution, but we know how that goes right?

Ha, I actually thought about already and sent an email to Stars about it a few years ago. I don't know why they don't implement it. It should account for more than heads up though and assign a value to each position at the table and then weight it by the stakes involved. In a perfect world......I'm just trying to get 888 caught up to 2013 Stars.

How about the ID Islamabadboy instead?

I like it

that's super shady he should be banned immediately