Hello everyone!

I am just interested if all highstakes regs currently using GTO software?

Do you think that poker will be totally solved in the nearest future?

I have it. pm for licensing info

wow, only one reply to this, must be super secret software

What is it ? Poker snowie

no, it is not. Snowie is just an AI for training and it has nothing with GTO. Read on the snowie site the description of the product:"PokerSnowie is made for all players. We spent years developing artificial intelligence which learns from past experience, so you don't have to."

Simple Postflop is the advanced calculator for solving post-flop spots - really powerful tool.

What is the price? Or do you want have my win rate?

SimplePostflop - Runs as both cloud and desktop version. Supports ICM. Easy to get started.
PioSolver - Runs on desktop only. Fastest algo. Most complex functionality. Difficult to use.
GTO Range Builder - Runs in the cloud only. Collabs with SimplePostflop. I haven't used it myself.
CREV Equilibrium Solver - Not sure if in the same league but there is something from scylla coming soon, currently in beta I believe

The first 3 all produce identical output on identical input. The differences aren't in the quality of the solutions, more in the presentation / user interface and extra functionality.


Solver software is similar in impact on the games as HM+PT were back in the day. If you don't use one you are dropping behind the curve.

Shameless self-plug to intro video to SimplePostflop on IveyLeague
http://iveyleague.com/video/25-nl-6-max-zoom-part-2

Few corrections:

GTORB only lets you access a flop library but doesn't let you run your own flops, only Turn and River

PioSolver is not proven to be the fastest algo, they only claim so and I have anecdotal evidence for it, but it's far from proven. SimplePostflop claims it used to the fastest but now they are of about equal speed.

I don't have the latest Pio version installed currently, it's always a bit of hassle to redownload + reinstall + activate every upgrade. Simple updates itself like PokerStars client when you start it. But if there is demand for it I could run some speed tests on my system.

Not true (anymore). Since the latest version they have an updater.
Wrt GTROB there used to be the option to request custom solution which took couple of days. No idea if it still works this way. Haven't used it in 8 month.

Thanks for the correction.

look at NVG, i gave you names, the info, the % accuracy, wtf else do you want??

high stakes players are GTOing, machining, and dreaming! the world needs to know! watch out for ROFLET... while his dream machine is not as accurate as TILTMENOTS, hes got raw discipline and pure power

why is the turn, river download free? I'm confused, can you just only analyze turn/river spots?

it was all a dream i used to read nvg, now jungleman is outing the people with the real dream machines

tiltmenot? i thought he was all talent not a.i, sigh..

The vast majority of NL regs are not using GTO software beyond CREV etc., but there for sure are some.

russians and their god damn sizing! It all made sense when I started playing around w/ these tools.

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of top elite players are using it just because they can certainly afford it , why wouldnt they.

Really cool video from the creator of GTORB: preflop gto
I think that preflop solutions could significantly change poker

raw power straight up is better than raw discipline and pure power imo. cmon jman figured you would know this

Why do NL players favour PioSolver so much? Almost every training site vid i've seen works with Pio, but i find the interface quite ugly. Personally, i think the solutions format of SimplePostflop is much clearer and easier to browse. Is it just a matter of algorithm speed or am i missing something else?

i have no idea but i agree that the interface is lolbad, don't remember simplepostflop tho so thanks for reminding me