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12-21-2016 , 02:32 PM
eff stacks 27k. Villain is a known crusher, I'm perceived as a tag.

Open UTG with 89hh to 275 and button raises to 650. I call.

Flop is j102 rainbow. I check and button bets 900 and I check raise to 2500 and he calls quickly.

Turn is a brick 3. I bet $4000. Thoughts? He calls after about 2 seconds.

River is a rainbow queen. I bet $7000 and he tank shoves.

I end up folding.
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12-21-2016 , 04:20 PM
What? 17k to call a 37k pot? You fold a straight? Do you really think he calls you down with AK?


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12-21-2016 , 05:35 PM
lol u wot m8
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12-21-2016 , 06:04 PM
What would he float with and then shove with? QQ and AK, right? Board is too wet to slow play set on the flop.

How should I have changed around the whole hand?
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12-21-2016 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by calleveryshove
What would he float with and then shove with? QQ and AK, right? Board is too wet to slow play set on the flop.



How should I have changed around the whole hand?

TJ2r flop seems to be pretty dry to me.


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12-22-2016 , 02:03 AM
Good fold, you can never be too careful.

Even GTO says that folding 2nd or 3rd nuts can never be a huge mistake.
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12-22-2016 , 02:32 AM
It's full table?
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12-22-2016 , 04:47 AM
You expect him to call a $4k turn bet in two seconds with AK on a rainbow board vs a TAG player who opened UTG? If he had JJ he probably would play it the same way vs a tag utg opener on dry rainbow board where you most likely have a lower set

Its $13k more to call to win $41k, I could never imagine folding
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12-22-2016 , 05:53 AM
such a troll
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12-22-2016 , 10:56 AM
Never folding here. If V is good he could easily turn some hands into a bluff ( for example aj would play this way) considering that you don't have ak in your range
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12-22-2016 , 05:26 PM
Well for a shot of Johnny Blue he told me what he had, AK. Should've bet bigger on the turn, I suppose, to just get a fold. 6k? He told me he was pretty certain I didn't have a set and that my check raise was a bit weird given that I'd four-bet jacks or tens pre-flop and felt like he may have had up to 10 outs + bluff equity and some possibility that he was good. Pretty annoying hand.

Obviously if this were a 5/10 situation I'm calling it off, but here, the stacks were pretty deep.

Felt lucky I folded and stupid that I didn't bet bigger on the turn. I guess I'm just a nit compared to you all.
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12-22-2016 , 08:34 PM
270bb eeeshhh

First off - opening UTG with 89hh was your first mistake - you are going to get out played a lot and won't accomplish much with this hand. I'd prefer opening this hand in late position.

Flop is a check call. What does raising accomplish? You just bloat the pot for literally no reason.

Turn changes nothing so not a great barrel card. I'd like to see you barrel a 789QKA and maybe check call most other cards.

River is a great card for us. How can he literally call 2 streets with AK? Not only that but he snap called you. Seems a little weak to fold here after putting in half your stack. IF you fold 3rd nuts you are essentially folding your entire range except AK which you can almost never have. If he said he had AK he is probably lying and cannot believe he got you to fold 89. Sometimes you have to pay them off. It's just unlucky.

I'm not sure if this is a troll post, but don't post results.
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12-23-2016 , 05:27 AM
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270bb eeeshhh

First off - opening UTG with 89hh was your first mistake - you are going to get out played a lot and won't accomplish much with this hand. I'd prefer opening this hand in late position.

Flop is a check call. What does raising accomplish? You just bloat the pot for literally no reason.

Turn changes nothing so not a great barrel card. I'd like to see you barrel a 789QKA and maybe check call most other cards.

River is a great card for us. How can he literally call 2 streets with AK? Not only that but he snap called you. Seems a little weak to fold here after putting in half your stack. IF you fold 3rd nuts you are essentially folding your entire range except AK which you can almost never have. If he said he had AK he is probably lying and cannot believe he got you to fold 89. Sometimes you have to pay them off. It's just unlucky.

I'm not sure if this is a troll post, but don't post results.
Nice post. I don't know if this was troll post as well. This has to be by far a auto snap call. QQ here shoves river no questions asked as well.
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12-24-2016 , 05:19 AM
He's repping AK/qq obviously but better chance that he doesn't have it than he does have it, due to him being on the button if he's a known crusher then he's not crushing by making hands only. He's bsing you too. Tough call but he knows a raise on the river in that amount looks very strong. If you'd call it off in 5 10 then you call it off here or you shouldn't be playing those stakes. He has it so be it

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12-25-2016 , 06:53 PM
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Well for a shot of Johnny Blue he told me what he had, AK. Should've bet bigger on the turn, I suppose, to just get a fold. 6k? He told me he was pretty certain I didn't have a set and that my check raise was a bit weird given that I'd four-bet jacks or tens pre-flop and felt like he may have had up to 10 outs + bluff equity and some possibility that he was good. Pretty annoying hand.

Obviously if this were a 5/10 situation I'm calling it off, but here, the stacks were pretty deep.

Felt lucky I folded and stupid that I didn't bet bigger on the turn. I guess I'm just a nit compared to you all.
He knew you would 4-bet JJ and TT OOP here.. why/how? 10 outs vs what.. a raise on the flop from J9?
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12-26-2016 , 04:06 AM
jesus christ you guys are trolled way too easily
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01-02-2017 , 02:18 AM
no finess to the troll man. gotta respect the art.
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01-31-2017 , 01:11 PM
I thought it was a legit thread until I read op username carefully

Hahahahaha..nice one
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02-08-2017 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by calleveryshove
What would he float with and then shove with? QQ and AK, right? Board is too wet to slow play set on the flop.

How should I have changed around the whole hand?
If you believe he had QQ or AK why bet 7,000 on river? Probably could have check/called similar amount and found out you won. (I would have told you I had AK too.)

Also, if you can't call 13k into a 41k pot with a str8 on rainbow board I'm not sure where 89 UTG is going to be profitable for you.
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03-03-2017 , 07:40 PM
Lul


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03-04-2017 , 09:21 PM
I'd expect V to turn AJ/KJ/KQ into a bluff some % of the time here because we never have AK

Also change your username


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