The Portuguese Poker Prodigy José “Girah” Macedo Scammed HSNL players for >$30,000 NVG xpost - Page 9 - High Stakes Poker Pot Limit and No Limit

Deldar182 · 08-07-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Land Of The Free?

Ok, HS players. Here's the question: How is it ethical for you to ghost one another and get advise against unsuspecting player during HU sessions?

How is it so standard that OP doesn't even try to disguise the fact? This means it's clearly prevalent behavior in the HS community.

How dare you complain about getting scammed when you yourselves spend your time cheating against people online? Ever think about that?

Could all the morons please stick to NVG please, if I wanted to wade through page after page of random busto ramblings about their take on something they have no right to comment on I would read the thread there with great sustained interest
thx guys

naskocom · 08-07-2011, 03:29 PM

Maybe Sauron1989 is IPoker super user , in Ipoker are so bad and they always win . Maybe Machado was right . Sauron was bad but who can beat the super user insider

rumnchess · 08-07-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NoahSD

The whole vouching system is just insanely stupid. Any other analysis of it is just plain wrong.

What does this even mean?

Obviously vouches are not going to turn out to be correct 100% of the time but when you enter into a financial transaction with someone you obviously assume that risk.

Having a system that fails a very small % of the time is obviously better than having no such system and trusting nobody.

Friendships / business relationships are often formed through mutual friends, who were formed thru mutual friends, etc etc etc. It's the same reason a girl trusts (and should trust) a good guy friend of a close friend of hers more than some random dude at a bar.

This entire situation is extremely unfortunate, but I don't believe the blame should fall at all on Haseeb + Jungle. They've both responded adequately in this thread IMO. Perhaps they were too trusting, but perhaps Girah was also extremely careful / intelligent about his scheming

snagglepuss · 08-07-2011, 03:37 PM

pretty fishy smell coming from dogishead / haseeb qureshi imo

**NoahSD** · 08-07-2011, 03:38 PM

Eh. I probably shouldn't have just dropped a controversial and tangential sentiment in a thread about something else. I'll try and write up my thoughts about vouching at some point and post it somewhere and we can argue about it in an appropriate place.

Sorry for the derail.

Marshall28 · 08-07-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rumnchess

This entire situation is extremely unfortunate, but I don't believe the blame should fall at all on Haseeb + Jungle. They've both responded adequately in this thread IMO.

If you think Haseeb has responded adequately, you've skipped parts of the thread.

coopah · 08-07-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by luckychewy

Jose, words can't even describe how big of a scumbag you really are.

This.

"Girah", you make me sick.

geeforce1 · 08-07-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kjemmy

His chat was instant when we discussed strat. This was over a 4-5 month period.

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Originally Posted by imfromsweden

I've talked a lot of strategy with him, and from what I remember it has always been pretty instant.

maybe i am wrong then, wouldn't be the first time

GreekStein · 08-07-2011, 03:44 PM

There's a very well known UK high stakes pro who has done exactly the same thing.

V disappointed in Girah obv. When I played against him on ipoker albeit over a short sample he didn't seem to do anything that would make you think he was on another level.

The_Elegance · 08-07-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kjemmy

We had his Lock poker account, uh, locked for investigation. We have a guy who works high up who's confirmed Jose has funds in his account, and has confirmed that Jose has sent Merge (the network Lock is on) two mails asking for $30,000 to be transferred to my account. The payments for the actual scamming will go through wire.

I wasn't one of those who lost money to Jose, so I can't tell what the others are thinking about legal charges. I'll let you know.

Edit: I was just told $64,000 are being transferred to my account for the scam + compensation.

why'd you get so much?

ohead · 08-07-2011, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GreekStein

There's a very well known UK high stakes pro who has done exactly the same thing.

V disappointed in Girah obv. When I played against him on ipoker albeit over a short sample he didn't seem to do anything that would make you think he was on another level.

Why do people continue to play ring around the rosie with **** like this? If you know people who are doing this OUT THEM FFS DONT TRY TO PROTECT THEIR IDENTITY IN ANY WAY.

I_Poke_4_Fun · 08-07-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NoahSD

The whole vouching system is just insanely stupid. Any other analysis of it is just plain wrong.

you obv just have untrustworthy friends, iv never done a trade with anyone who was vouched for that didn't go 100% smooth, the vouching system I would say has 95% success rate in HSNL, maybe in mid-stakes its flawed, but to say its stupid is just an unintelligent comment

luckychewy · 08-07-2011, 03:55 PM

seriously. not outting someone who's capable of doing something this low is truly mind boggling.

I_Poke_4_Fun · 08-07-2011, 03:57 PM

I really think dog/jungle/sauce need to teamview girah and make all his usernames public on all sites, so we can really get to the bottom of this...thoughts?

**kjemmy** · 08-07-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Elegance

why'd you get so much?

Jose wanted to give the group $30,000 in compensation for the time a few of us put into investigating this (me, Moss, TooCurious and one we know in Merge have spent a substantial amount of time), and for setting us up for a scam/scamming two of the players. The other $34,000 I'm sending to Moss and Imfromsweden.