Originally Posted by jungleman

Hey all, this has been about as weird and surprising to me and the other high stakes guys who know Jose as it has been for everyone else. I was told he was 100% trustworthy and he seemed like the type to be so, so I never questioned his integrity. I still don't really understand why he not only scammed people in one of the scummiest ways possible, but also decided to risk his whole career for a seemingly small amount... Clearly I made a mistake in trusting him, and now question our relationship as a whole.

Haseeb and I are in Europe still trying to get settled in to play online once again, we have talked about the situation and we can't abide by what he did, so we can't live with him in Portugal and I can no longer consider him my student.

Again this is all really ridiculous, I and the high stakes players who supported him in the past never would have imagined he would do this. GL to all those who got scammed.

Originally Posted by DOG IS HEAD

Hey guys,

This whole situation has come as a huge surprise to all of us who've been supporting Jose. No one ever imagined he could do something like this, and honestly I still have difficulty understanding his motives. We've been traveling to Europe (Jungle and I have been in Gibraltar for the last few days) and as such, I had to be very brief, with having to wade through all of the commotion in what's happened from every end. Since Jungle and I decided that we no longer can be with Jose after the way he's betrayed our trust, we have changed our plans from Portugal and are now trying to sort out another place to live within Europe. This whole situation is a huge cluster**** to say the least.

Right now it's very difficult for me to spend a lot of time on 2p2, but as I've heard that the rumors and speculation are running rampant, I will say this and I will say it as emphatically and clearly as I can. None of us who supported Jose had any idea about any of this. None of us. We supported Jose and believed in him singlemindedly, I will admit that. I personally had a very strong relationship with the kid. I don't know why, but none of us who believed in him ever imagined he had it in him to be so greedy and dishonest to do something like this. Clearly, we were wrong, and as was I to place our faith in him. What he did was really ****ed up and inexcusable. I may be able to write more once Jungle and I secure a place to live and lay our heads, but for the moment we are very all over the place. But for everyone who thinks that there is some huge conspiracy or that Jose is a puppet for some high stakes scamming ring - get a ****ing grip, ffs.

Suffice it to say, the OP speaks for itself. I wish the best to all of the victims in dealing with this.

Haseeb

Originally Posted by tommyhawkers

This is clearly not enough. I am friends with Haseeb in person, and for the most part respect him quite a lot. Any, and every dollar you've made by being Jose (the thief)'s agent or in any possible way related to him, needs to be donated to a charity many of us agree upon, or back to the victims.

This in itself is ****ing horrid because of how it reflects on others. Less people are respected/trusted as a whole because of this retarded kid absolutely stealing money from people while being well-regarded and afaik vouched by dogishead. Also, he isn't even banned from 2p2 yet, wtf? I know that people I interact with in the future are going to trust me less/look down on me because of this exact situation. He needs to be banned, dogishead/jungleman/anyone vouching or standing up for this guy need to thoroughly respond, give back any money they've made directly/indirectly from this, and release public apologies on their twitters, blogs, etc accepting they were touting the name of a legitimate thief.

I am a good friend of dogishead and his 2 sentence response absolutely baffles me. People are not treating this nearly as severe as it is. This is no different from him breaking in your house and stealing a large amount of valuables. I honestly hope he goes to some Portugese prison wherever he lives. If anyone knows the law there, please PM me and we can all go about doing whatever is possible to follow through and make sure we can do as much as we can. I am good friends with several high profile lawyers here, and I don't mind paying for whatever it takes for him to be punished.

I also am good friends with people who have interviewed him and helped put his name out there, which indirectly made him more trustworthy to people he stole and cheated from. By Monday, I will make sure his videos are deleted from those sites and there is a public apology from those sites for going about promoting him.

Originally Posted by moss boss

It would appear that the confession isn't to be taken at face value, just received this PM (maxkatz1 is a real ipoker player):

Hey,

I'm maxkatz1 on ipoker and read the whole story today. Basically I had done some investigating after loosing to sauon1989 and Jose sweating me 3days in a row and was gonna post sth similiar. He also said sth about a nick on ongame and i kinda suspect its also one of his scam accounts.

Originally Posted by ivvaen

I was in the skype group and can safely assume that Jose tried to set me up for a scam as well. He is the nut low scum and can never be forgiven. I want to clear some things up. First of all, ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME:

This is so immensely false and infuriating. Jose did not feel bad and confess. We had gathered lots of evidence and he caught wind of it. He lied and denied , lied and denied and lied and denied some more. This cant be stated enough. He used all sorts of arguments about how well we know him, how much strat he has posted, “what would I gain?”, “youre my friends” etc. He absolutely tried to deny this for as long as he could and did NOT come clean out of guilt like he claims here. FU Jose you scum, I don’t ever wanna hear about you or see your face ever again. I hope you quit poker and never make a cent from it ever again. SCUM!

Furthermore, from Jose’s conversations about this on Skype he is NOT as sorry about this as he proclaims. He even had the balls to say this last night when we informed him we were going public asap:

[01:25:17] josé maria macedo: stop thinking so much about your reps
[01:25:20] josé maria macedo: and think about mine
[01:25:22] josé maria macedo: for one second

Once again, are you ****ing kidding me????? This kid does not grasp what he has done.

Secondly, this friend story has to be a load of crap. For example, Jose claimed on Skype that Merge wouldn’t detect the cheating by looking at IPs as his friend was online by the use of a mobile internet 3g pen. Why, then, did Sauron disconnect at the same time as Jose, who was on his normal internet connection?

Now, when it comes to the sweating. The point of it was to rail in real time and comment after. Personally, I never got sweated by anyone, but I sweated Jose playing a random fish one time. I did comment in real time on hands and I acknowledge that this is wrong and I should not have done it. It was not my intention when talking about sweating in the first place, and I consider it a mistake and will never do it again. This was the only time I have been involved in any type of sweating as long as I have played poker. From talks with the other guys it seems like they all merely sweated and that any real time communication was extremely limited. I believe this.

I leave you with this gem from the Portuguese Russ Hamilton who is so so sorry for what he has done:

[16:00:16] josé maria macedo: i assume you all know this
[16:00:24] josé maria macedo: but if it goes public, both mysponsors are dropping me
[16:02:45] XXXXX: yeah they're aware
[16:03:16] josé maria macedo: ah, really?
[16:03:20] josé maria macedo: damn
[16:05:28] josé maria macedo: theyreally know that both sponsors will drop me?
[16:05:35] josé maria macedo: and still want to?

Originally Posted by snagglepuss

[01:25:17] josé maria macedo: stop thinking so much about your reps
[01:25:20] josé maria macedo: and think about mine
[01:25:22] josé maria macedo: for one second

[16:00:16] josé maria macedo: i assume you all know this
[16:00:24] josé maria macedo: but if it goes public, both mysponsors are dropping me
[16:02:45] XXXXX: yeah they're aware
[16:03:16] josé maria macedo: ah, really?
[16:03:20] josé maria macedo: damn
[16:05:28] josé maria macedo: theyreally know that both sponsors will drop me?
[16:05:35] josé maria macedo: and still want to?

Originally Posted by ilrg

Then telling me that his ipoker account is blocked cause Hasseeb logged in.

Originally Posted by Bruut99

Is it true that dogishead was supposed to pay the victims their money if he was left out of this?

Originally Posted by hammer_time

The scary thing to me is that I don't think I would have believed the original post until I got to the final part where Girah confessed.

****ing hell. You can't trust anyone in this devil's game.

Originally Posted by Bruut99

Is it true that dogishead was supposed to pay the victims their money if he was left out of this?

Originally Posted by clickabutton

I was waiting for DIH and Jungleman to post something, can't say I'm very impressed with what they have to say. Vouching for someone as strongly as they did, and then reacting the way they are when **** hits the fan is pretty close to a scam too.

You guys are obviously two of the top online character and you are proving that 'vouching' in the poker world means absolutely nothing.