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Old 08-08-2011, 03:09 PM   #401
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edited this post because i got some facts wrong.

something doesn't sit right about all this though. pokerfatman seems very suspicious.
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:14 PM   #402
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[2:05:49 AM] josé maria macedo: you dont like me now?
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:21 PM   #403
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Haseeb, if you want to keep your reputation intact then agree to have all of your info turned over to an independent third party (NoahSD/Jalexand) who can verify that you aren't involved in any wrongdoing beyond the stuff you've already admitted to. Even if there are more minor transgressions, as long as you aren't implicated in any major way, you will still come out of this way cleaner than if you sit back and answer only selected questions and continue to shield yourself.

You could even make a deal that any minor breaches (as long as you aren't involved in anything major) are to be kept confidential. If your hands are as clean as you claim, you have no reason not to do this.

I've always been a fan of both your blogs and videos. I hope you agree to be completely transparent and come through clean.

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Old 08-08-2011, 03:25 PM   #404
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Could Girah just be invention of some high stakes players? They let him play on the account and other good high stakes players realize he is not that good and line up to play him. Then they make the switch to the best high stakes players in the world and clean up. a great ruse to create the ultimate action. Just kind of crazy how I am looking for the portugal prodigy post comes out of now where about how some kid won 2.5 million in one year. This came out a few months after isildur1. Then these high stakes guys vouch for girah when he says it is him. What are the best heads hu nl players in world problem when it comes to making money? It is getting action... What happens if these guys saw all the hype isildur1 was getting and unlimited action and said lets create are own islidur1? Then they hype him up and let him play some and then other high stakes players unbeknownst to themselves end up playing one of the best players in the world (which is not girah) have to wonder which players where involved? Kind of like high stakes super team who planed to use the Girah account and destroy unkowning victims.
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:30 PM   #405
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Haseeb, if you want to keep your reputation intact then agree to have all of your info turned over to an independent third party (NoahSD/Jalexand) who can verify that you aren't involved in any wrongdoing beyond the stuff you've already admitted to. Even if there are more minor transgressions, as long as you aren't implicated in any major way, you will still come out of this way cleaner than if you sit back and answer only selected questions and continue to shield yourself.

You could even make a deal that any minor breaches (as long as you aren't involved in anything major) are to be kept confidential. If your hands are as clean as you claim, you have no reason not to do this.

I've always been a fan of both your blogs and videos. I hope you agree to be completely transparent and come through clean. You are getting a lot of flack
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I want to believe that DIH is innocence, but the whole situation is so fishy. If innocent, do absolutely everything in your power to prove it!!! Rather than making a tonne of rash messy blog posts, in which you come across pretty badly and fail to clear up most issues convincingly.
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Old 08-08-2011, 03:59 PM   #406
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Could Girah just be invention of some high stakes players? They let him play on the account and other good high stakes players realize he is not that good and line up to play him. Then they make the switch to the best high stakes players in the world and clean up. a great ruse to create the ultimate action. Just kind of crazy how I am looking for the portugal prodigy post comes out of now where about how some kid won 2.5 million in one year. This came out a few months after isildur1. Then these high stakes guys vouch for girah when he says it is him. What are the best heads hu nl players in world problem when it comes to making money? It is getting action... What happens if these guys saw all the hype isildur1 was getting and unlimited action and said lets create are own islidur1? Then they hype him up and let him play some and then other high stakes players unbeknownst to themselves end up playing one of the best players in the world (which is not girah) have to wonder which players where involved? Kind of like high stakes super team who planed to use the Girah account and destroy unkowning victims.


i think there is a good chance of this
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:08 PM   #407
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I seen someone mention earlier about Girah "taking the grenade" for Jungleman and Haseeb, I too have been thinking about this surely if Jungleman or Haseeb came forward and tabled like 200k or so for Girah to stay quiet he will just take it and say oh they knew nothing etc etc. as by outing them he gains nothing by keeping quiet he gains 200k. Do people think this could happen?
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:14 PM   #408
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If that's really the case then this is literally the most ridiculous plot. Using some kid to get a ton of action and even letting him make interviews and all that...Seems a little too hard to do no?
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:19 PM   #409
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I agree.

I know what happened with regard to the UK guy but don't hold any physical evidence myself of what happened. Would be good if one of any number of UK guys who know who this is (and most do) would post on it.
greekstain, you are obviously really greek! if your not man enough to say who it is, don't say anything at all, don't forget the brits saved your ass during WWII
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:23 PM   #410
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If that's really the case then this is literally the most ridiculous plot. Using some kid to get a ton of action and even letting him make interviews and all that...Seems a little too hard to do no?
Certainly wouldn't like to think Jungleman would give him tips on interviews

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Old 08-08-2011, 04:28 PM   #411
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havent you seen the Portuguese play football cheaters by nature
its because there all hoodrats LOL will murder their mothers for a dollar
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:28 PM   #412
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10. The more I am reading about the evidence against Girah's alleged millions won and previous accounts, I am honestly starting to question all of it.
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Actually Dog you were the one who invented this "evidence" in the first place. If Girah's stats had been real then his db would be Euro-compatible ie INCLUDE stats from the 500 nl games that any Euro player would have in his db as he goes through the stakes......... The Betfair $500 NL were sweet pickings for a prodigy.


The stats below almost certainly originally belong to some US only player and you have doctored them for your purpose.


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I hope this will give you guys an idea of my results in poker:



I am José, the so called 'Portuguese poker prodigy'.

No, you are Haseeb, the so called "fiction novelist" and poker cheat....................../
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:30 PM   #413
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the drama bomb hits a climax-

''you can read all about that on page 4''

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Old 08-08-2011, 04:33 PM   #414
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Actually Dog you were the one who invented this "evidence" in the first place. If Girah's stats had been real then his db would be Euro-compatible ie INCLUDE stats from the 500 nl games that any Euro player would have in his db as he goes through the stakes......... The Betfair $500 NL were sweet pickings for a prodigy.


The stats below almost certainly originally belong to some US only player and you have doctored them for your purpose.





No, you are Haseeb, the so called "fiction novelist" and poker cheat....................../
Jungleman is in the clear, I instantly just trust the aura about him, but haseeb appears to be just like any other opportunist, essential a successful but dodgey guy.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:33 PM   #415
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Just want to say it's great the hsnl community is now demanding answers... yesterday I was posing the same questions that are now being posed, and suggesting that a third independent party come in and audit Haseeb, Jose, etc account login details and IP over months on 2p2 etc etc and was slammed by some members for going on a "witchhunt". Well I already knew all this had to be done.. it just goes to show that there is an "don't ask don't tell" attitude among some in the hsnl community that tries to suppress matters everytime this sort of thing erupts.

bottomline is, anytime there is a victim with irrefutable evidence, let alone several victims plus a mountain of evidence and questions to be answered, it is CRUCIAL that the hsnl community(or msnl/ssnl for that matter) immediately demand answers ASAP. that is the ONLY way to get the truth out in the open. poker right now is still a community where the police and FBI etc dont have the means to come in and make sure everyone is clean, like they would regarding real estate property or personal safety etc etc. So it is super-important that the community EACH AND EVERY SINGLE TIME takes a 100% forward attitude in uncovering the truth anytime this kind of thing erupts, rather than sitting back and giving the perpetrators as much time as they want to come up with something that conveniently hides some part of the truth. those yesterday who said "leave Haseeb alone" were ridiculous. Jose already confirmed he's a cheater and liar so we needed to hear from Haseeb and still need to hear more from Haseeb. Haseeb is only doing himself a FAVOR by answering as many questions as he can, so good on him for that, and he needs to answer EVERY question posed as opposed to skipping over some. none of us has anything personal against anyone involved, other than wanting to know the truth so the integrity of the game we love can be upheld.

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Old 08-08-2011, 04:38 PM   #416
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I'd like someone with knowledge of this sort of thing (e.g. Guids) to speak to your ex hacker friend if thats possible.
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It was Guids .
A number of times Guids has attempted discussing IT related topics (more like tried flaming regulars in #MSNL) and demonstrated that his strength is more in his ability to use his rear as his mouth.

Guids has frequently based his credibility on computer security on having helped dogishead when he was hacked, but the details of which he doesn't actually provide when pressed, at least when I've tried to ask simply out of honest past curiosity.

I think it's even reckless to keep such information undisclosed so that other players can't ensure they're protected or that it's not happening to them too.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:44 PM   #417
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Actually Dog you were the one who invented this "evidence" in the first place. If Girah's stats had been real then his db would be Euro-compatible ie INCLUDE stats from the 500 nl games that any Euro player would have in his db as he goes through the stakes......... The Betfair $500 NL were sweet pickings for a prodigy.


The stats below almost certainly originally belong to some US only player and you have doctored them for your purpose.





No, you are Haseeb, the so called "fiction novelist" and poker cheat....................../
has anyone else noticed that all "winnings" are in $ while not all the stakes are? even for the pound and euro stakes winnings are shown in $. this could mean someone doctored the stakes and forgot about the winnings or it could be an odd bug of hem, but that seems unlikely.
or does hem just convert the winnings into equally worth $?

ps: the convertation would be unlikely because 3 hands at 100/200 come out nice to a round number of 1196, which makes sense for 3 hands played with 4 dollar rake.

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Old 08-08-2011, 04:46 PM   #418
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Jungleman is in the clear, I instantly just trust the aura about him, but haseeb appears to be just like any other opportunist, essential a successful but dodgey guy.
Think posts about just trusting someone because of their aura are best left in NVG.

Jungleman said he didn't even respect this kid's actions BEFORE this scandal. Why would you choose to live with someone whose actions you can't respect?

It's just questionable to act like he had a problem with Girah before all of this happened, meanwhile he was about to become roommates with him. It's not like either of them were obscure middle stakes grinders.

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On another note, I didn't like the way Jose seemed to like to build hype for himself: challenging durrrr in the durrrr challenge, taking the isildur challenge, offering to play anyone giving 1bb back at 200/400--basically suggesting he's better than he was in ways that he could not back up. I've always been a proponent of the idea that respect should follow from being worthy of respect, not vice versa--something that Jose's actions contradicted. Lastly it's a bit exaggerated to say he was my protege, indeed I did coach him but for maybe a couple of sessions at best in addition to answering questions. Many others are my protege moreso according to the time I've given them.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:47 PM   #419
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Got a few comments:

First off this guy is obviously a huge scumbag, and is capable of anything. Anyone who has never received a file from him or had a computer he could of possibly accessed - should toss the computer/get it reformatted due to the possible risk of a Trojan etc. Living in the same house as someone like jungleman would be a dream for a scammer's/scumbag like this.

Staking an 18 year kid you have only met through the internet is a terrible idea. Staking people in cash games over the long term is a very dicey proposition - as it is so easy for them to steal from you - By not reporting the full wins - dumping money etc etc. In addition to that most strong long-term winners won't/want need staking.

As far a DIH getting cheated by a Swedish scammer - this is probably true. I know at least a dozen people who have been cheated for six-figures by a swedish hacker (plently of rumors to who this). He either has access to their computer or sends them a file that lets him see everything they are doing and then plays them HU.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:50 PM   #420
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has anyone else noticed that all "winnings" are in $ while not all the stakes are? even for the pound and euro stakes winnings are shown in $. this could mean someone doctored the stakes and forgot about the winnings or it could be an odd bug of hem, but that seems unlikely.
or does hem just convert the winnings into equally worth $?
The 100/200 pounds row of 3 played hands show a round number for profit. This shows that it is (almost certain) not a conversation to dollar that the program does but indeed a bug or a doctored picture.

clarify: with a round number for capped rake per hand that goes to flop

2nd edit: posts below me make me believe that the round number after 3 hands can be just a very coincidence because pound/dollar conversion was exactly 1.5 at that time i guess?

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has anyone else noticed that all "winnings" are in $ while not all the stakes are? even for the pound and euro stakes winnings are shown in $. this could mean someone doctored the stakes and forgot about the winnings or it could be an odd bug of hem, but that seems unlikely.
or does hem just convert the winnings into equally worth $?
hem has had currency conversion for quite a long time now
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:53 PM   #422
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Its just how HEM shows those stats. You need to go into the sessions tab to get a converted value in USD afaik.

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Old 08-08-2011, 04:55 PM   #423
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Haseeb, some questions, and the more forthcoming you are and quicker you respond, like I said, the better it is for your credibility:

1) Just how much $$$ have you made from staking Jose, playing under his account, him using your account on one of the sites, getting him the coaching deal set up, etc etc. Tell us how much $$$ you've made from associating with Jose overall, and break it down into each category and how much compensation he had to pay you.

2) Since Jose had a ton of accounts as we now know, did you really only play under one of his account once only for 1300 hands of PLO? Now is your chance to detail just how many times you've played under which accounts for how long against whom(if it's specifically to go HU at some stake against a specific player). We all suspect it's more than just once, and now is your chance to be as honest as you can.

3) Why were you still interested in moving in with Jose after knowing that he's a scammer? And since you're with jungleman and he himself hasnt explained this, why do you think jungleman was also interested in moving in with you guys after discovering Jose's cheating? Dont let us speculate because then we'd assume that this is to cheat $$$ from durrrr, or for you to continue playing under girah's accounts etc etc. Tell us the answer, and no the "big brother" excuse won't wash.

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Old 08-08-2011, 04:57 PM   #424
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And the second time that I unwittingly brushed against it was when Jose messaged me on Skype, telling me that there was this fish at 50/100 who had a huge VPIP and 3-bet but played decent postflop, asking if we wanted his action against him. I said yeah sure, of course we do. And a couple days later, he tells us that he lost a couple buyins to this fish at 25/50. I say it's fine, don't worry about it, just no more 25/50 for a while - I tell him just grind some more 5/10 and try to run good for once.
DIH, Do you genuinely believe he lost this money legitimately? Or do you now believe he scammed you by chip dumping? Did he ever mention the name of this "fish"?
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has anyone else noticed that all "winnings" are in $ while not all the stakes are? even for the pound and euro stakes winnings are shown in $. this could mean someone doctored the stakes and forgot about the winnings or it could be an odd bug of hem, but that seems unlikely.
or does hem just convert the winnings into equally worth $?

ps: the convertation would be unlikely because 3 hands at 100/200 come out nice to a round number of 1196, which makes sense for 3 hands played with 4 dollar rake.
tbf, this happens on my HEM too, but it corrects itself on the graph and sessions tab
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