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08-09-2011 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahSD
I mean.. it's not guaranteed that he wrote every word of it. He did make the post, though, and it seems pretty weird to not remember making that post or to bother logging in to someone else's account to make a post unless you wrote most of it, right?
Unless you log in to another account so often that you actually do forget.
08-09-2011 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahSD
This post was made by DIH in Vegas:
Not surprised, goes with the theory of DIH acting like an agent working to present his 'client' as a marketable, accessible, friendly character for building brand/fan following etc and comes across cringe worthy given the info. now.

Pretty much relating to this from the blog post:

"I edited his blog posts and always encouraged him to tweet,blog, post on 2p2 etc. regularly to keep his fans happy. I never wrote anything from scratch for him although he often asked me to, but I told him if it doesn't come from your voice it's going to sound fake or contrived. But almost everything that he wrote he asked me to tidy up or for advice on things to add or subtract. I was more actively taking on a role as a big brother / mentor, giving him advice in his life, in career, and in poker. "
08-09-2011 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Tall
Unless you log in to another account so often that you actually do forget.
That's the only time he posted on Jose's account in NVG. I can't check other forums, unfortunately.
08-09-2011 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahSD
I mean.. it's not guaranteed that he wrote every word of it. He did make the post, though, and it seems pretty weird to not remember making that post or to bother logging in to someone else's account to make a post unless you wrote most of it, right?
Why would he need to post for Jose? Ever? They don't have internet in Portugal? In Jose's video, he's VERY well spoken. DIH helping him with basic communication on a message board is totally suspect.
08-09-2011 , 06:46 PM
Haseeb, did you advise Jose to create or help with the creation of the original Looking for prodigy thread?

If not, at what point did you find out that Jose himself was behind it and what was your reaction/feelings on how ethical this was?
08-09-2011 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahSD
That's the only time he posted on Jose's account in NVG. I can't check other forums, unfortunately.
It would be good to know who was posting in José's account in strategy forums...
08-09-2011 , 06:54 PM
Well, he was adamant that his total # of logins would be <5, and this was after he (shouldve) known ip info would be coming out.

That said, would still be great to see. If he could totally forget composing a post as elaborate as the nvg one, who knows what others he managed.
08-09-2011 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rothko
You've been out of line itt and either aren't thinking clearly or don't care to.
i apologize, i would be very interested in where you think im out of line.

i have slightly more information than the general public (nothing i haven't shared) and am pushing to find holes in dogishead's story because i feel like he will be more likely to listen to a question that i pose than a random person. i have backed up what i said with either facts or reasoning as to why something might be true. i misspoke one time, and that was because i had bad information-- i double checked it and it turned out i was wrong (in this case, i was told haseeb had 5% of himself in both the 100-200 sessions vs isildur and the one he get hacked in; that was false, and i apologized and clarified less than 10 minutes later, although i was told it was possible he was backed for the hacking session, that is speculation).

either way, i'd prefer if you didn't respond to this post, pm me if you wish, there is no way this has anything to do with the thread.
08-09-2011 , 06:58 PM
SamCauhaun, the name of jungleman's mental coach who doesnt have millions and is only a recreational player, chipdumped to Girahh on Lockpoker in the final 2 days of Lock challenge.

How about we all contact Lockpoker to get them to investigate the location of the IP logging into SamCauhaun that played those sessions? If it was Portugal, we know it's Jose. If it's USA, then it could be either:

1) Sam himself(highly unlikely, he's a recreational player who doesn't have millions and doesnt play highstakes.. a mental coach wouldnt just dump $100K online to highstakes player for no reason knowing he doesnt have remotely the skillset to compete)
2) Haseeb(every reason given he's so far lied about just everything), or
3) jungleman(after all its the name of his mental coach and there's no evidence Jose or Haseeb even knew about Sam being jungleman's mental coach)

Also, since mods have checked the IP of girah and DIH and found some posts to be made by DIH, how about this one http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...rodigy-990495/, who made the post that started it all?

Last edited by 663366; 08-09-2011 at 07:04 PM.
08-09-2011 , 07:04 PM
Has it been verified that the screen name SamChauhan, is actually Sam Chauhan IRL? What evidence is there that this isn't just a rando screen name?
08-09-2011 , 07:07 PM
below is one of the posts jose made on the "kleverkat" account

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obv most US regs play on euro accounts using a vpn, but none of them create elaborate aliases hiring a random portuguese kid to make a 300k view thread just to level NVG and draw attention to their crime...
ORLY
08-09-2011 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 663366
SamCauhaun, the name of jungleman's mental coach who doesnt have millions and is only a recreational player, chipdumped to Girahh on Lockpoker in the final 2 days of Lock challenge.

How about we all contact Lockpoker to get them to investigate the location of the IP logging into SamCauhaun that played those sessions? If it was Portugal, we know it's Jose. If it's USA, then it could be either:

1) Sam himself(highly unlikely, he's a recreational player who doesn't have millions and doesnt play highstakes.. a mental coach wouldnt just dump $100K online to highstakes player for no reason knowing he doesnt have remotely the skillset to compete)
2) Haseeb(every reason given he's so far lied about just everything), or
3) jungleman(after all its the name of his mental coach and there's no evidence Jose or Haseeb even knew about Sam being jungleman's mental coach)

Also, since mods have checked the IP of girah and DIH and found some posts to be made by DIH, how about this one http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...rodigy-990495/, who made the post that started it all?


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Originally Posted by Sawcruhteez
Has it been verified that the screen name SamChauhan, is actually Sam Chauhan IRL? What evidence is there that this isn't just a rando screen name?
lol

i assume you're referring to 'samchauhan' on Merge?

i watched him play Girahh on Merge. samchauhan's location was Portugal. when you put your mouse over the name it said "Location: Portugal". he randomly showed up to play girahh at 100/200 on Merge, losing just enough to him so that Jose could win the Lock challenge or watever it was called. lock disqualified him "cuz HQ played once on Jose's acct and lost $..."

Last edited by sinner; 08-09-2011 at 07:23 PM.
08-09-2011 , 07:11 PM
I'm not super well-informed about this but I can add a little....

1. I don't know Sauce that well, but we chat quite a bit online, and from what I've seen he might be the most solid person in poker.

2. I was always a little doubtful of the Macedo story but I never read more than a couple of pages of the original "Macedo=superstar" thread. My reason for skepticism was simple -- online poker is impossibly hard, and big winners don't just surface from obscurity. That said, I listened to his Pokerstatic interview, and he hit some of the right notes, and people around 2p2 seemed to vaguely buy his story. I had his Skype b/c at some point he'd contacted me out of the blue about coaching. I don't know how he got my Skype name, and uncharacteristically I did not return his message. After listening to the Pokerstatic interview, I messaged him and invited him to be a coach on Expert Insight. He had a few questions and at some point I said, "I'm going to call you real quick." I called him and it was the "real" Jose Macedo, and he was articulate in text chat and in video conversation. Point is: If Haseeb pretended to be Macedo on Skype or on 2p2, I'm guessing it was limited.

3. Macedo was charging $500 on Expert Insight and he never did a lesson. I removed him immediately upon hearing about the scandal. I tried to determine if his sign-up URL was Texas, FL, or Portugal, but I was not able to.

4. Given all of the 2p2 genius that is going into this thread, it seems to me that some time needs to be spent investigating the worst possible scenario. I have no particular info here at all, but the worst case scenario would be this....

Macedo has obviously shown a willingness to use Skype/TeamViewer as a cheating method and he is ruthless in this regard. The worst case scenario is simply that Macedo, working with friends or not, was sophisticated in using Skype and other methods to implant Spyware in people's computers, allowing him to see hole cards during play. There's like a 1% chance of this being the case, but it's worth looking into. Girah's join date and first post appears to be Dec 10, 2010. Sauce's computer was hacked two weeks before this in a very sophisticated way.

Brandon
08-09-2011 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wins_pot
3. Macedo was charging $500 on Expert Insight and he never did a lesson. I removed him immediately upon hearing about the scandal. I tried to determine if his sign-up URL was Texas, FL, or Portugal, but I was not able to.
the rate on the website said 1k/hr, which was as much as CTS.
08-09-2011 , 07:20 PM
With every post that sauce has made he seems more and more like the MAN. Never met him irl but seems like an awesome guy from his interviews and all.
Jay and Vanessa are also doing a sick job pushing things and Aaron (albeit sometimes using harsh wording) as well.

A lot of other stuff is just speculation or random discussion. Just let the dust settle a little and wait for the blog post that Ben alluded to.
08-09-2011 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wins_pot
I had his Skype b/c at some point he'd contacted me out of the blue about coaching. I don't know how he got my Skype name, and uncharacteristically I did not return his message.
Do you vaguely remember when he first contacted you? Pinpointing a season, month, or event near when it happened would help.
08-09-2011 , 07:27 PM
brandon, you are the second person to claim jose got your skype mysteriously.. does haseeb have your skype contact? ben, did haseeb have your new skype contact?

edit: its worth noting that among high stakes players, contact info isn't given out randomly
08-09-2011 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by icallunoob
if he had enough skill and sophistication to hack peoples computers why would he be skype chatting "let me teamviewer!" with his so called friends at 5/10 and 10/20, and doing it so often and repeatedly.

all signs just point to jose being a total ****ing ******.
Brandon makes a good point though, and Fisheye was saying this the other day too. Anyone who has been in contact with Jose and has received any files from him should think long and hard about what type of file it was, and possibly take some measures to ensure they haven't been keylogged or trojaned.
08-09-2011 , 07:29 PM
am I wrong, or haven't most/all of the HS pros that where in contact with Jose said that he "mysteriously" got there Skype info?
08-09-2011 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by aejones
brandon, you are the second person to claim jose got your skype mysteriously.. does haseeb have your skype contact? ben, did haseeb have your new skype contact?
brandon, like i, had our skype names freely available in the coaching forum. also a lot of other skype names arent exactly hard to find by post hunting/google.
08-09-2011 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by darkconcept
brandon, like i, had our skype names freely available in the coaching forum. also a lot of other skype names arent exactly hard to find by post hunting/google.
+1, it's usually not very difficult if you wanted to find someone unless they've intentionally made themselves difficult to find.
08-09-2011 , 07:32 PM
New NVG thread on this topic:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...andal-1080851/

Please note that I included the caveat that NVGtards should refrain from trolling here in HS when I included the link to this thread.

Thank you for your continued efforts in uncovering the full extent of this scandal. I return now to lurking.
08-09-2011 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by darkconcept
brandon, like i, had our skype names freely available in the coaching forum. also a lot of other skype names arent exactly hard to find by post hunting/google.
ok makes sense
08-09-2011 , 07:36 PM
fwiw .. the last day of the bluff challenge girah played another NL1k 6max! Reg at 10kNL HU. I cant remember the name exactly.. (have to look into my DB..) but it wasnt "SamCauchhan".
I was a bit surprised by this cause before that i only saw these guys at the regular 6max tables. The location of the other Reg was also Portugal so oc i had my own thoughts about this.
08-09-2011 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtySanchez80
fwiw .. the last day of the bluff challenge girah played another NL1k 6max! Reg at 10kNL HU. I cant remember the name exactly.. (have to look into my DB..) but it wasnt "SamCauchhan".
I was a bit surprised by this cause before that i only saw these guys at the regular 6max tables. The location of the other Reg was also Portugal so oc i had my own thoughts about this.
goncalostar and I have been reviewing this video from pokerpt

http://www.youtube.com/user/pokerptv.../3/dOZjuB1zSZ8

in which Macedo discusses (in Portuguese) the Bluff challenge and his disqualification from it.

Between about 3.00 and 4.30 he goes through a list of the players he says he played high stakes against in the last week of the challenge. It's pretty hard to make out exactly because he's speaking fast and the sound is not great. (Any PT speakers please chip in to help us out.)

Anyway as far as we can make out the list is something like this (according to Macedo):

Proplayer76 - beat him for 35k at 50/100 (which left him at -25k overall??)
a friend (at ~3.33) - who he paid 8bb/hour and beat for 65k
TaylorSmith (?)
Arnie22
Playerxxx - xxx is a string of digits - Macedo says he can't remember what they are

He doesn't give sums won for these last three.

Last edited by tchaz; 08-09-2011 at 08:07 PM. Reason: typos

      
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