The Portuguese Poker Prodigy José “Girah” Macedo Scammed HSNL players for >$30,000 NVG xpost - Page 41 - High Stakes Poker Pot Limit and No Limit

let's just put it in plain words.. from the information posted jungleman needs to explain whether it was SamCauhaun the mindset coach non-highstakes poker player that played against Girahh in the Lock poker challenge at highstakes, or whether he organized the chipdumping to Girahh from an account registered to the name of his mindset coach who doesnt play poker in order to win the Lock challenge.

jungleman has so far refused to address whether he had anything to do with Girahh winning at highstakes HU when Jose is a msnl 6max player. he has refused to explain why Jose was in makeup to him while having won so much on highstakes HU. this is eerily similar to Haseeb refusing to explain whether he posted under girah on 2p2, before it was found out that DOG and girah shared the same IP. their strategy seem to be that "we will deny and keep quiet unless 2p2 is somehow able to find out through detective work, at which point we will change our story".

ANOTHER WAY OF FINDING OUT THE ANSWER IS FOR SOMEONE TO CONTACT SAM CAUHAUN(number should be available on his website at least email etc) and ask him directly "Did you play high stakes poker on this particular day and lose this much to Jose "Girahh" Macedo on Lock Poker?"

Last edited by 663366; 08-09-2011 at 05:05 PM.

08-09-2011 , 05:00 PM

#1002

Charmer

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,028

Chauhaun*, sorry

It seems incomprehensible to me that someone, who has stated in interviews that they only play poker for fun, would deposit >100k to play one of his own life student's close friends at 100/200, conveniently with 2 days left in the lock poker challenge, and lose it all allowing said friend to win the challenge

and have no other poker history

Last edited by Charmer; 08-09-2011 at 05:03 PM. Reason: added

08-09-2011 , 05:03 PM

#1003

aejones

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 20,224

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charmer

it is pretty clearly rigged, we've basically proven that at this point, and i'd bet the naming rights to my second born child that haseeb had something to do with it.

08-09-2011 , 05:03 PM

#1004

thatpfunk

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,552

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathDonkey

I can contribute a little - I can only find one DC account with any permutation of Jose's name, or 'girah' or anything, it was created well over a year ago and was NEVER logged into after initial creation.

is it possible to check the ip?

08-09-2011 , 05:05 PM

#1005

SHARPERFOCUS

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 624

I found this googling poker_macedo@hotmail.com address on google.pt

zmmacedo@hotmail.com This is the contact email address for the blog

http://girahpoker.blogspot.com/2011/...so-called.html

08-09-2011 , 05:07 PM

#1006

BoscoGeorge

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOG IS HEAD

10. The more I am reading about the evidence against Girah's alleged millions won and previous accounts, I am honestly starting to question all of it. But I have no idea what to think of it or where to begin doubting things. I do remember him showing me lots of HH's that he played against GreeceP (Isildur) at 25/50 because he was asking me about doing an instructional video on one of his early blogs, and I told him doing one on an Isildur HH would be a really good idea. I still don't know what to think.

Haseeb

Quote:

Article was published March 27th 2011

http://dmitry.ossipov.eu/girah/media/PokerJ.pdf

Author of article contacts Dogishead

DiH states he has known José for almost a year, during this time he has advised on various aspects of his career and has access to evidence that José is indeed a prodigy and has achieved big winnings in a short period of time.

This interview http://pokerpt.com/noticias/1-jogado...interview.html

Xika:
Did they doubt you? Have you showed them something to help them believe you? How did that work?

José:
The majority of them didn't doubt it because if i was willing to pay them €1.000 per hour the best for them, was probably not to ask questions. I showed my graphics to Dogishead and my usernames to know if we play against each other and also to know his opinion. He knows everything and he always followed me during everything and vouched for me. In fact he was the one that introduced me to the other players that I stated talking to.

Why would you start to question his alleged millions if you already had proof of it? The wheels are really starting to come off eh.

08-09-2011 , 05:07 PM

#1007

rothko

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 8,205

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexeimartov

i don't know about that. Whats the conversation he has that says "keep your screen names private?". constructing a hypothetical scenario here, although very possible, is just weird.

simply saying something like "my accountant told me not to post graphs" is pretty standard, especially as basically everyone who plays poker has an accountant.

saying "my lawyer told me to keep my screen names private" is kind of a stretch beyond that as its unusual to be seeing a lawyer, especially when yore 18, especially before he's known as girah (and will start needing contracts etc), and especially to have a conversation that leads to "keeping your screen names private".

I don't even know that that is great legal advice in this situation if his screen names are legit.

No lawyer told Jose this. He didn't take a day off school to get a consultation. It's simply Jose's cover for not releasing screennames, as he couldn't support the web he was weaving with real screennames.

08-09-2011 , 05:07 PM

#1008

sauce123

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,428

Everyone is just super hyped up about this situation. i read some posts in this thread, thought a bit and had some strong suspicious about haseeb doing x, but absolutely no proof. so instead of posting suspicions on here i just called him on the phone and asked if x was true and if it wasnt what possible justification he could give for my suspicions of x. when i dont have proof i prefer to settle things between myself and the person involved in order to save them from headache and myself from being wrong and looking mean (and hope someone else would do the same for me in a similar situation). haseeb admitted to x and said he would address it shortly. if he doesnt, then i will publicly and i wanted a record of that.

08-09-2011 , 05:09 PM

#1009

Charmer

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,028

Quote:

Originally Posted by aejones

i'd bet the naming rights to my second born child that haseeb had something to do with it.

I hate to say it, but it seems hard that it would be just haseeb. jungle and haseeb were backing jose 50/50, and this SamChauhaun was jungle's life coach.

unless haseeb cultivated a relationship (with strong enough trust to deposit this huge amount of funds to be dumped/have both keep jungle in the dark) with this dude, and then bankrolled the dump entirely himself even given his split staking of jose...

Last edited by Charmer; 08-09-2011 at 05:10 PM. Reason: clarity

08-09-2011 , 05:10 PM

#1010

MoniesRemovalPLC

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 212

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charmer

its inconcievable this could happen, so obviously a setup.

After learning he won the BLUFF Pro Challenge, Macedo said: “I’m really excited and happy to have won the BPC! I had a very good run at the Lock High stakes tables and now I can only hope to keep working and playing hard in order to improve and build on this achievement. I will keep on playing anyone at any stakes up to $200/400 so if you want some action, come find me at the tables (that goes for you too Durrrr ).”

from http://news.bluffmagazine.com/jose-g...allenge-20500/

08-09-2011 , 05:11 PM

#1011

Night2o1

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 60

We need a comprehensive list of known and likely aliases of Jose's compiled by an informed person with the communities input and support from 2p2 mods in checking IP IMO. Also to see if haseeb has used any of them too...

08-09-2011 , 05:13 PM

#1012

DeathDonkey

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12,875

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatpfunk

is it possible to check the ip?

Unfortunately we only store IP addresses when people watch videos, not on account creation

08-09-2011 , 05:15 PM

#1013

rothko

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 8,205

Quote:

Originally Posted by aejones

it is pretty clearly rigged, we've basically proven that at this point, and i'd bet the naming rights to my second born child that haseeb had something to do with it.

You've been out of line itt and either aren't thinking clearly or don't care to.

08-09-2011 , 05:18 PM

#1014

alexo18

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,409

Quote:

Originally Posted by sauce123

so he is going to have time to see how much he should talk... or where he should direct our attention... really dont see any merit in waiting, or dont see any merit in reading new DIG's blog only accepting SOME things...

08-09-2011 , 05:20 PM

#1015

harangutang

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,956

Was really hoping for more of a response from Marco Antonio through all of this

Such a great poster.

08-09-2011 , 05:20 PM

#1016

2DMB2LIV

adept

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charmer

This.

Jungleman's silence is deafening at this point, even if it is advised by his scammer of a publicist (this guy really needs to take a break from poker and work on his reads of human nature for a change...).
What are the chances he knew nothing about this?

Also, Haseeb could very well potentially, in a desperate attempt to retain some kind of self-respect, take the fall for Jungleman, so we really have to take any confession he makes, no matter how damning for himself with a grain of salt, considering that possibility.

08-09-2011 , 05:22 PM

#1017

the_main

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8,601

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Caca Man

meh seems pretty convenient that Jose went on "vacation" and isn't going to further expand on his side of the story. I remember that one reg Gary Neville (I think?) that got busted scamming owned up and described his scam and why he did it then answered a ton of questions. If Jose really wanted to preserve his image, is an outstanding player, and wants to play again wouldn't he be posting every 2 minutes to regain you guys trust?

funny you bring him up

that gary neville guy from the bbv scam is also involved in the girah skype group

not sure how relevant this is, or wheter its been mentioned already but i saw his name in one of the chat logs

08-09-2011 , 05:25 PM

#1018

viking1

adept

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 907

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbowenroe

WHAT IS X?????????????????

X is probably something that involves SamChauhaun

08-09-2011 , 05:27 PM

#1019

Fredron

old hand

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,469

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathDonkey

Unfortunately we only store IP addresses when people watch videos, not on account creation

So you're saying that it's impossible that he watched or downloaded any videos as he said numourus times, from that account?

If we go the other way around instead then.
It's possible for the mods here on this forum to see what his IP is when he used the Girah account here. Would it be possible for you to see if any account on your site with that IP watched/downloaded anything?

08-09-2011 , 05:28 PM

#1020

chuckamuck

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 387

Quote:

Originally Posted by 663366

having some woman claiming to be jungleman's publicist coming on today to say she advised him not to speak while being found out that she's a "$6 into $600000" scammer in another forum is very alarming imo. for that reason alone jungleman should come out and answer questions

check out her 2p2 posts. It sounds like she might actually be Doyle's and PH's publicist as well, if the poasts are legit.

However, her 2005 ponzi posts are indeed quite shockin.

it's problem...

08-09-2011 , 05:29 PM

#1021

Snowman808

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 690

basicaly, before girah was discovered as a scammer, dogishead ghosted girah account and soon after girah is disqualified from the bluff challenge.

not defending girah but looks like he took all the sh it for him in this story.

pretty scummy imo

08-09-2011 , 05:29 PM

#1022

663366

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,935

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmmmcake

If he is coming out with the full truth, why would he need several days? I agree that everyone is "super hyped," but he is just adding to the hype by taking several days to respond to things. The community doesn't need a novel on the mistakes/bad decisions he made, just the truth.

well Haseeb realizes that when he responds to replies in the thread on the same day like he did yesterday, he could make slip-ups such as "I never posted under girah on 2p2" while before pressing "submit" a mod posts that IPs show he did indeed post under girah. so to avoid ninja-editing and making himself look even worse for lying, its better to take a few days and hope conversation here goes in another direction altogether so he doesnt need to address certain things.

08-09-2011 , 05:32 PM

#1023

AKingdom

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,520

I'm confused about the recent claims re. IPs from the original PPP thread. I'm almost positive that as that thread started growing, one of the mods confirmed that the OP's (Girah's) IP originated from Portugal. Yet now people are claiming that 'Looking for Prodigy' was Jose who was using the same IP as DIH???

08-09-2011 , 05:40 PM

#1024

Charmer

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,028

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKingdom

thac said both that girah was created in portugal and that LookingForProdigy was girah

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot

Where did Sauce say ANYTHING about a couple of days??? He said Haseeb would address it 'shortly.'

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1051

08-09-2011 , 05:46 PM

#1025

NoahSD

Is Right

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 18,843

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charmer

Given your characterization of the staking agreement between you/jungleman and Jose (that a little 25/50 was played, but due to poor results he was playing 5/10 6max), by what means did Jose manage to play very high stakes HU in the last few days of the lock poker challenge?

You have said he is 50k in makeup; how is this the case following the results of the lock challenge? Was he much deeper in makeup before?

Just +1ing these in the hopes that Haseeb or Dan responds

Page 41 of 115

First

21 31 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 51 61 91

Last

...

Page 41 of 115

First

21 31 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 51 61 91

Last