Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register

08-08-2011 , 02:00 PM
Also this hasn't been noted, but in Jose's scam the money was being won on the dollarman and sauron accounts, not on the girah account. I originally thought that part of his motivation might've been that he felt really bad about being in makeup to us and just wanted to prove himself to us like alexeimartov suggested, but at the point at which he cheated us as well by claiming to have played against dollarman on his own account, that theory doesn't make sense.

Jose has never been in Vegas afaik.
08-08-2011 , 02:03 PM
dogishead,

have you ever posted on the 'girah' twoplustwo account?
08-08-2011 , 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tdomeski
Wait, Haseeb sold a bunch of action to play 100/200 HU, got hacked, lost a ton, and then disappeared for 6 months+ b/c he had lost his confidence?

Then he shows up again in the public eye betting $250k on a running prop bet?

I don't know all the details of his life, so I'm actually curious is this about right in terms of his actions over the past year and a half?
sure sounds like it. agree on how it looks. he could have spent the last 6 months riding his bicycle and coaching poker at $500 an hour though.

also weird that 'the hacking' was like 'we realized there was an ip coming from some swedish address' and that was that. like there was no more inquiry, no screen names were released etc. i haven't really followed that aspect of this whole thing though so nfi about that whole thing. this is such a time vacuum.

its certainly a weird way to get hacked from the sound of it. i've never heard of anyone getting hacked like this recently. its also something where if i made a blog post that i got hacked i think everyone would just be like 'OH MAN IM SORRY TO HEAR THAT GL' not 'WHAT WERE THE TERMS'. The fact that he had less than half his action over this period is pretty ****** dodgy. Trying not to make any false accusations on DIH here but it is sketchy as **** and i would like some more information related to this particular facet. I don't know what would help his case though, maybe someone does.

Last edited by alexeimartov; 08-08-2011 at 02:14 PM.
08-08-2011 , 02:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DOG IS HEAD
Also this hasn't been noted, but in Jose's scam the money was being won on the dollarman and sauron accounts, not on the girah account. I originally thought that part of his motivation might've been that he felt really bad about being in makeup to us and just wanted to prove himself to us like alexeimartov suggested, but at the point at which he cheated us as well by claiming to have played against dollarman on his own account, that theory doesn't make sense.

Jose has never been in Vegas afaik.
he can still just import the hhs from those names and list them as aliases in HEM for a screenshot. i wouldn't be surprised if he was ******ed enough to do something like that.
08-08-2011 , 02:09 PM
dog could u post every screen name that u know of which jose played under.
08-08-2011 , 02:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexeimartov
sure sounds like it. agree on how it looks. also weird that 'the hacking' was like 'we realized there was an ip coming from some swedish address' and that was that. like there was no more inquiry, no screen names were released etc. i haven't really followed that aspect of this whole thing though. this is such a time vacuum.
It's apparently common knowledge who this Swedish hacker was and he hacked a number of high stakes players. At the time I was way too depressed and tired of poker to care about who he was or anything like that, I just wanted to get away from everything. But around the same time there was a big thread on 2p2 about the hacking, you can dig around there if you want to know more.
08-08-2011 , 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pofigistka
11. I was pretty angry in my blog post, and for that I apologize. It wasn't a very level-headed way to do it, but I had just gotten to my place in London and had been writing for 3-4 hours straight to get all of that out without any sleep.

Were you up all night looting? This lad had a cracking haul:

Unless you have all day to leisurely loot, that weight gain powder has to be a massively -$EV choice.
08-08-2011 , 02:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DOG IS HEAD
Alright, I've just woken up and have finally gotten a few hours sleep after all of this. Looking back on the blog post I wrote last night, I really wish I had slept on it rather than writing it all in one go. It came out really angry, especially with everything having come down on me all at once and feeling really overwhelmed and stressed out. That being said, I'm going to do my best to reply to some of the points stated here by you guys.

1. The line "what happened is between me, Jose, etc." was obviously a very poorly worded phrase, and I've taken it out. What I meant was that the entire matter before it went public was between us, the scammed, jose, etc., because we all had very important vested interests in how it came to light. Jungle and I had a lot of money involved in this situation, the scammed of course had their reparations to be sorted out, and so what I meant to say that I didn't think it was fair to say that for trying to hold this thing from going public that I was being disingenuous. What I meant was obviously NOT that Jose scamming people is not something the public should know about, nor my playing on his account, etc.

2. Yes, the stake and debt were separate. There was a 40k debt to Jose while he was in makeup due to the housing. Jose definitely had his own money, we know this for a fact. We have no proof of millions, but we know that he had some.

3. There was no talk whatsoever of me bribing anybody 30k to hold back the story. The 30k was reparations to be paid to the victims BY JOSE. I was not going to pay that. I promised to help pay them out for their initial losses by the scam, and that was it. I was not involved in anything more, but when they told us (contradicting their earlier promises) that they were going to include our names when they went public, I told them then we'd prefer if Jose paid them out himself instead of us bank wiring them money (once it became clear he was able to pay out of his Lock account). But at no point did I take away the promise that I'd pay them out if Jose reneged on his payment.

4. I only played on Jose's account once. Period. If you want details on who Jose scammed and how much, ask the victims involved and they'll give you the breakdown, I asked them simply for one total number and one bank account to send to.

5. We were not going to take his action in these 25/50 give back 1bb/100 matches, in fact we strongly discouraged them because we thought they were ridiculous. AFAIK he never took one except against bigguylegend, who refused to play him after a few sessions because he thought Jose was very good.

6. I am not in debt to anyone, and the stake was split between me and Jungle 50/50. Ashton was there when we both decided to stake Jose, so he may be able to attest to that.

7. I changed my name from "ipokeder" to "DogIsHead" because I turned 18 and started playing with accounts in my own name since I could have my own bank account, etc. I vaguely recall the incident in question where I got coaching from MDMA without telling him who I was when I knew he otherwise wouldn't accept me because we argued on 2p2 all the time. Honestly I find it kind of odd that this is being brought up as a charge against me for paying some guy who doesn't like me for coaching back when I was 18? But okay.

8. There were many periods over which I had more or less involvement with Jose, especially while I was moving around and around Black Friday, because we were so busy dealing with other ****. Most of it was at the start.

9. Not sure who's saying I can't pay my debts or why. I am not in debt. It would be hard to put up the cash to stake people if I were in debt.

10. The more I am reading about the evidence against Girah's alleged millions won and previous accounts, I am honestly starting to question all of it. But I have no idea what to think of it or where to begin doubting things. I do remember him showing me lots of HH's that he played against GreeceP (Isildur) at 25/50 because he was asking me about doing an instructional video on one of his early blogs, and I told him doing one on an Isildur HH would be a really good idea. I still don't know what to think.

11. I was pretty angry in my blog post, and for that I apologize. It wasn't a very level-headed way to do it, but I had just gotten to my place in London and had been writing for 3-4 hours straight to get all of that out without any sleep. I wish I could re-write it more sensibly, but the only right thing to do is let it stand as is. But I don't think that I have been narcissistic to include the details that I did about Jose looking up to me and praising my writing, etc. - I wanted to portray with leaving out as few details as possible our relationship, and I think the fact that he obviously thought a lot of me was important to understanding it. I'm sorry if you guys think I was stroking my own ego, but that wasn't what it was about. I just tried my best to portray the full story as best I could.

Any more questions that you guys have I'll try to answer if they're stated clearly.

Haseeb
Dog this leaves the question why you still planned on moving in with Girah after you knew he was a scumbag and a scammer?
08-08-2011 , 02:22 PM
"I got hacked. I’m going to keep this story as short and as bare of details as possible, but here’s basically how it goes. A few weeks ago I played against a character from Sweden. He seemed okay at PLO but he played a number of hands very suspiciously – it seemed like he never seemed to make wrong decisions in big pots and there were a few hands where he made ridiculous plays that turned out right, with strange (fast) timing. I lost to him pretty bad over two sessions and gave up, determined not to play him anymore. I lost an amount between 20k and 100k to him (intentionally vague). I never do stuff like this, but I ended up showing the hands to a couple of people and suggested that maybe he was cheating. I was mostly dismissed, but I had a very uneasy feeling about the match.

After another intentionally sparsely-detailed incident involving another player from Sweden, I began to get very suspicious that maybe there was a bug in my computer. I ended up getting an ex-hacker friend of a friend to run a port scan on my computer, and he had me run some kind of packet scanner that looked through all of the incoming and outgoing traffic on my internet connection. Turns out there was a computer from Stockholm, Sweden that had been tapping into my computer. There was no other explanation for the presence of this person, and we even went so far as to access his computer using his IP, revealing a Swedish Windows XP Login password screen. At that point I was pretty much convinced that I was hacked, and (using another computer) changed all of my passwords immediately and dumped my AIM account. I then cut my computers off from the internet and was going to reformat them completely before coming back online."

From your blog post.

I'd like someone with knowledge of this sort of thing (e.g. Guids) to speak to your ex hacker friend if thats possible.
08-08-2011 , 02:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by skier_5
I


I just can't comprehend Haseeb not knowing anything about the bluff poker challenge given the relationship he described with Jose.
.
Can you answer this please.
08-08-2011 , 02:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexeimartov
No. I'm trying to look for the thread but it involved a variety of PLO players getting hacked and losing alot of money to this Swedish player. I believed they had clicked links from skype msgs and had trojans installed.
08-08-2011 , 02:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gus Spangles
dogishead,

have you ever posted on the 'girah' twoplustwo account?
haseeb?
08-08-2011 , 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gus Spangles
haseeb?
He is clearly choosing not to answer some of the direct questions that only takes a few moments to answer, I wonder why?
08-08-2011 , 02:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexeimartov
This I think,

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...ng-ftp-773642/
08-08-2011 , 02:32 PM
Haseeb,

Do you know who made the LookingForProdigy posts?
08-08-2011 , 02:37 PM
someone that has a good grasp of the situation should pool together a handful of questions for DIH. pages of diluted conspiracies and accusations does nothing other than limit the progress of the situation.

if someone asked a handful of questions on behalf of the poker community, DIH could in
one fell swoop back up his claims (evidence?) or not. The manner/time/fashion/depth with his answers will no doubt shed a more focused light on the events that have transpired.
08-08-2011 , 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DOG IS HEAD
4. I only played on Jose's account once. Period.
Jose said he was asleep when you logged in. So you knew his log in details without needing to ask him. But if as you claim, you only played this once, how could you or even why would you have already had access to his log in details..........

The more truthful answer is of course that the reason you had Jose's log in details was so you could play on his account whenever you wanted... That was your Doggie portuguese puppet deal/


Quote:
Originally Posted by RangeyMcTriplmerge
Cliffs:

***Before scam is made public***
“PPP in the house yo! Dude is a BEAST, one of the best players on the planet already! I’ll bet mirrions that he’s the real deal”
***after scam is made public***
“He has displayed some competence at midstakes. I’m starting to question if he’s the real deal actually.”

***Before scam is made public***
“I vouch for this guy. he's like a brother to me”
***after scam is made public***
“I can’t believe this scumbag fooled me. I want nothing to do with him”

***Before scam is made public***
“Get a grip conspiracy theorists, nobody ghosted Jose ffs…”
***after scam is made public***
“I only played on his account once”
08-08-2011 , 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fkmyscreename
dog could u post every screen name that u know of which jose played under.
+1
Could jungleman/DIH/sauce and others whom girah might have sent HH's check their conversation logs and get his SN's?

His screenshot (posted in the 'i am the so called portugese prodigy' thread) shows +1.6M and 800k+ hands.
Surely there must be an account of his that played at least few hundred thousand hands.
This could be used to verify whether his screenshot is legit.
08-08-2011 , 02:41 PM
Cardrunners have kicked Haseeb out
statement
08-08-2011 , 02:49 PM
[2:05:49 AM] josé maria macedo: you dont like me now?
08-08-2011 , 02:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexeimartov
I'd like someone with knowledge of this sort of thing (e.g. Guids) to speak to your ex hacker friend if thats possible.
It was Guids .
08-08-2011 , 02:58 PM
ORIGINAL POST:

"Jas11 (jasjas11 on stars) got an aim from paymenot (stars sn) linking him to a video that never played (was just some .exe dl or something). immediately after he got crushed by the accounts: bad_gateway and alladiin on ftp. On stars: saman_R and WestisBestis on stars. saman_R and westis are low stakes plo 6max players that decided it was time to take a 25/50 nl shot. Jas says that paymenot even encouraged him to play bad_gateway, saying he was really bad at plo ect. Jas thinks that pokerfatman is a multi-acc of bad_gateway, but that isn't confirmed"
-----
"The hand histories between these players and the scammers are beyond absurd. Every big pot won by kadabra vs bad_gateway is a huge suckout. The HHs really look like he can see the screen. These guys are really bad and seem to only lose pots to huge suckouts or suprising hero calls (by the victim).

Again I just started looking into this today when he tried to scam me. I will add info as it comes but this is it for now. Any info is appreciated.

DOGISHEAD-
"I was pointed toward this thread by some friends, but POKERFATMAN was somebody who I lost a lot of money to during the window of time in which I was definitely hacked. I lost 75k over 800 hands at 25/50, but I had nothing damning against him, and because of the nature of variance at PLO I assumed that it was probably legit because he actually stuck around after having played against me, unlike the usernames that definitely were cheating (they popped up to play, then disappeared).

I suspected POKERFATMAN but then dismissed it on that ground because he continued to play high stakes, but if he's being suspected now then I'd say it's pretty likely I was a victim of his as well."
Dogishead

CTS also mentioned POKERFATMAN as playing normally and posted some hands.

"Wait, Haseeb sold a bunch of action to play 100/200 HU, got hacked, lost a ton, and then disappeared for 6 months+ b/c he had lost his confidence?
Then he shows up again in the public eye betting $250k on a running prop bet?"

a) he said "he thinks he got hacked" despite the person playing normally and it being plo.
b) he was staked to play in these games and had only a small portion of his action.

Not pointing any fingers, this stuff just all looks so dodgy. I don't fully understand it but it looks suspect.
08-08-2011 , 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roman
"At this point, I didn't believe that Jose would have the balls to own up to this. And the more he thrashed and made excuses, the more I was convinced that I had to tell them myself rather than wait in vain for him to confess. After I had spoken to Nick, he invited me into a group chat with all of his HU group sans Jose, since I asked him to keep me posted about the investigation before I left. I steeled myself, and started talking to the group and telling them everything I knew - the contents of which have for the most part already been posted on 2p2, so you can read them there. Obviously those logs were intended to be private, but now that they've been posted in a public forum I'm going to do what I can to explain the breadth of them. The remainder of this blog will be in point format replying to specific remarks related to what has gone on on 2p2 as far as I've read it."


can the people involved confirm this is true, to me it looked like girah confessed long before DIH confessed for him.
Yes DIH is correct. Jose's never admitted actual cheating when he "confessed" to me.

Fwiw there are a few sets of chat logs posted in the newer NVG thread, but obviously understandable if you dont want to wade through that mess.



Also I have been reimbursed for the scamming that took place and sent $842 to one of my poker accounts.

Last edited by TooCuriousso1; 08-08-2011 at 03:12 PM.
08-08-2011 , 03:07 PM
cardrunners bunch of hypocrites. if they kick out haseeb they should have kicked out their top 5 minus TC

      
m