new HSNL scammers crushing FTP - Page 9 - High Stakes Poker Pot Limit and No Limit

Kadabra · 05-03-2010, 02:31 PM

does anyone know a proffesional who can clean my pc and help me find out if it is hacked?

Moonshine · 05-03-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Percula

The problem there would be that many of the remote viewing software would still be able to see your VM session. Basically it would be no different than you using a Windows PC and RDP'ing (remote desktop) into your PC, then launch the VM and use it.

The reverse would be the right order. Your secure work on the installed OS and your pleasure "work" on the VM. IME remote viewing software does not bleed over into the host OS from a VM.

So your saying if I install a virtual machine on my computer and use that to play poker and I get a trojan on my regular windows machine a hacker could still see me playing on the VM, right?

CrazyFish123 · 05-03-2010, 03:42 PM

Holy smokes this is sick stuff! Looking at those nicks at PTR and their graphs its so obvious that some serious shady stuff going on....

Im quite surprised that people are so naive with their security and money online. This happend back when there were highstakes action on prima years ago, very similar things happend there to some very familiar highstakes players.

mrcoughman · 05-03-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Percula

The problem there would be that many of the remote viewing software would still be able to see your VM session. Basically it would be no different than you using a Windows PC and RDP'ing (remote desktop) into your PC, then launch the VM and use it.

The reverse would be the right order. Your secure work on the installed OS and your pleasure "work" on the VM. IME remote viewing software does not bleed over into the host OS from a VM.

K, I agree if I'm using VMware, and running a windows session while running leopard. However, I'm not sure this is how bootcamp works (because I have to shutdown my computer and reboot in windows, so I think I'm just running windows off of the hardware of my machine with a dedicated partition of my hardrive, and not emulating this the VM software. This is why I thought my method would be secure.)
I might have to rethink my strategy though if I'm wrong.

_MicahJ_ · 05-03-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Zergum

wow luckyULSA must be another multi-acc he's from norway as well

There was a short period of time where I played lucky ulsa, and he would crush me. I thought he was just a really good player, which maybe he is, but I felt I never had a chance vs him. I felt like he could see my cards, but without ever suspecting anything.

_MicahJ_ · 05-03-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by React1oN

a friend told me that he played "bartonpro1" on iPoker a few months ago and after beating him he got his AIM (johancederkrantz) and the person told him that he had a friend that worked for a particular eurosite and could get him some kind of deal etc. My friend somehow realized he was hacked and rolled his computer back2days then got someone to reformat it completely.

He used the same clone-site scam method for "Purple Lounge" eurostie that was spelled as "purpleiounge" and he even had fake IMs and emails using the same name as the actual VIP Host for purple lounge.

please everyone just be so so careful who you talk to and what you click on. even if things appear real it can be a scam. Check URLs closely as this is obviously the main way to see it (that i can think of). If it's not the EXACT URL IT IS VERY LIKELY A SCAM.

Same guy (alladiin) same aim (johancedarkrantz) said same exact thing to me. Except I wasnt smart enough to reformat, and it cost me dearly.

Anthony James · 05-03-2010, 04:32 PM

This is disgusting. What i feel is worse is that these lads obviously play regularly. A big lesson must be learned for all... I don't see there is anything FTP can do about it. Its the players fault for letting their computers be infultrated. Do not download any software from anyone you can not trust 100%. Some people are greedy and dishonest. We must sometimes learn this the hard way.

stevie_is_god · 05-03-2010, 04:45 PM

oh my god

just wow

rubbrband · 05-03-2010, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony James

This is disgusting. What i feel is worse is that these lads obviously play regularly. A big lesson must be learned for all... I don't see there is anything FTP can do about it. Its the players fault for letting their computers be infultrated. Do not download any software from anyone you can not trust 100%. Some people are greedy and dishonest. We must sometimes learn this the hard way.

lol@ nothing ftp can do. my guess is hacking your opponent to look at their cards is against the T&c to say the least!

Percula · 05-03-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonshine

So your saying if I install a virtual machine on my computer and use that to play poker and I get a trojan on my regular windows machine a hacker could still see me playing on the VM, right?

Likely yes.

I can RDP/VNC to a windows PC with VMware installed, and run and use a VM i.e. I can see and control the VM without any problem what so ever.

However if I RDP/VNC in to a Windows VM, I can not see nor am I able to control the host OS.

Percula · 05-03-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcoughman

K, I agree if I'm using VMware, and running a windows session while running leopard. However, I'm not sure this is how bootcamp works (because I have to shutdown my computer and reboot in windows, so I think I'm just running windows off of the hardware of my machine with a dedicated partition of my hardrive, and not emulating this the VM software. This is why I thought my method would be secure.)
I might have to rethink my strategy though if I'm wrong.

Sorry its been several years since I used a Mac. I believe you are right. Best to wait for someone with more Mac experience than myself.

**NoahSD** · 05-03-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rubbrband

lol@ nothing ftp can do. my guess is hacking your opponent to look at their cards is against the T&c to say the least!

I don't think the sites are responsible for preventing this stuff because they have no way to prevent it, and the people who got cheated in this way got cheated because of stuff that they did that was totally out of the sites' control.

I do think that they have a responsibility to lock the accounts of people who do this. If they fail to do that in a reasonable time frame (or after being told exactly what's happening), then I think they're responsible.

rubbrband · 05-03-2010, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NoahSD

I don't think the sites are responsible for preventing this stuff because they have no way to prevent it, and the people who got cheated in this way got cheated because of stuff that they did that was totally out of the sites' control.

I do think that they have a responsibility to lock the accounts of people who do this. If they fail to do that in a reasonable time frame (or after being told exactly what's happening), then I think they're responsible.

not sure what your point is? it's not the sites fault he got hacked, but i was quoting a guy saying the sites aren't responsible at all and can't/won't do anything.

**NoahSD** · 05-03-2010, 05:07 PM

I wasn't really agreeing or disagreeing with you. Just giving my opinion on what they can do and what their responsibility is.

rubbrband · 05-03-2010, 05:15 PM

i think they should lock accounts, confiscate all funds and send the funds back to the cheated players. anything less would unsatisfactory.