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Max value line with AK? Max value line with AK?

12-15-2016 , 10:35 PM
Hi all,

Here's a hand from 10/20 6 max hand.

HERO has 2276 dollars, Villain (UTG +1) has 2251 dollars to start

UTG fold, UTG+1 min raises to 40, folds around to HERO in bb.
Hero 3 bets to 120 with AK, UTG+1 calls.

POT: 250

FLOP: 89K

HERO checks, UTG+1 bets 125, HERO calls.

POT: 500

TURN: 8

HERO checks, UTG+1 bets 411, HERO calls

POT: 1322

RIVER: 4

HERO checks, UTG+1 bets 868, HERO calls

UTG+1 mucks KQ and HERO wins pot

What do you guys think of this line? Is this a good trappy line? Did I win the maximum against his range and specifically against this particular hand? Or should I have bet all three streets myself?
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12-16-2016 , 10:37 AM
It always depends on who you are playing. My question is why didn't you C bet on such a wet flop? Some opponents may check back with little equity and get there and then you have no idea where you're at. If you think your opponent is going to take the lead when checked to and continue bluffing with little equity, checking and letting them take control makes a ton of sense. Obviously you don't want to Cbet every board you 3 bet and are OOP and it is good to mix in checks but unless you think your opponent will try to bluff, I like cbetting and checking turns if I think opponent will float me. If I think they're a station, I'll go ahead and bomb turn blanks.

Your line happened to work out here but you didn't mention anything about your opponents tendencies and with no reads at all I'm cbetting by default, bombing turn on blanks, and then betting or checking rivers depending on what is and who I'm playing against.
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12-17-2016 , 12:16 AM
he might have flopped a monster draw and you gave him cheap streets to outdraw you as you were paying off whatever would come.

unless you know he is a cronic bluffer with dead hands this strategy will cost big time.
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12-17-2016 , 05:13 AM
Think both lines are bad
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12-20-2016 , 11:23 AM
Can hero conceivably have 99/88/98s after the 3bet pre? If not, can hero conceivably get sticky with AK/AA against a flop raise, turn bomb and river bomb? If no to both, then I like this line, since our continuance range is far too low after we get raised postflop (essentially only top set). If yes to either, then I'm definitely Cbetting the flop, barreling turn and barreling river.

Since you did not provide us with any reads or HUD stats (you didn't even tell us if this was live, online, which casino/site), then my default is just to bet/bet/bet here.
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12-24-2016 , 07:02 PM
You gave far too many chances for him to get away from his hand easily by not leading or even worse outdraw you. You're easily losing value by doing this as well if he decides to check behind if he's putting you on AK here.
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12-29-2016 , 03:21 PM
this guy got essentially coolered based on how the action went.


You 3bet pre - and check the flop where you both flop strong hands.

You did get the max based on how you played it imo, as if you bet yourself he could put you on a better hand. You turned your hand into what looks like JJ or QQ.

I'm surprised he bet river so big as he is targeting exactly JJ and QQ and would like to see him bet smaller so they can make a crying call.

I'm not too thrilled with his flop bet ether. I would think this is a 2 street hand as well, unless he thinks your a fish and a POW.
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01-04-2017 , 10:30 PM
3bet bigger pre. as part of a general mixed strategy i think we have to check this flop sometimes but not super often.

once you check flop i think you kind of limit yourself to taking the exact line you took in the hand so it seems flawed given the board texture.
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01-05-2017 , 04:16 AM
Yeah don't mind flop check with Kc. I would check here as a standard. Probably not AA with Ac since we don't block any Kxss. Depends on your overall strategy.

3b bigger pre.

WP.
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01-10-2017 , 06:50 PM
looks pretty good to me but I may have made it $140 - $160 pre.

I like your line vs some players - it obviously worked this time
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01-15-2017 , 04:16 AM
yea i wouldnt make it a habit of playing flop that way there. only situational
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01-24-2017 , 09:40 AM
why u 3bet and u check the flop, like someones says if he has draws you let him go there, if the v is a good player he will suspect you have a monster, i mean 3bet and check a flop with no cbet is really tricky and i would check the most of my hands, then you call his 2 barrels, you have a strong hand, better then ak.

Anyways was a good hand, but if he has a medium pair, if he has a draw, you are letting him get there.

Im not convince by the move, but is a good hand anyways.
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