I'd expect to see KK, K9s or air. Lower houses probably call river and at least don't snapshove (if he's taking a shot this might be even more true)

edit: didnt read the entire thread, didnt see results either. I'm pretty sure SB actually reps nothing on the river unless BB is known for squeezing. KK 3bets pf most of the time (shot-takes almost always?) and K9s plays pretty badly OOP this deep. As stated, I dont think a snapshove is a lower house here ever.

i have played many many many hands with gabe, not knowing what happened or if happened. but here is hoow the hand would of ended if it really did get played.



gabe get raised all in on river goes into tank for a wile and says well kid if you got quads you deserve the money, makes a some what crying call so that if hes wrong he can say i knew it but had to pay, gabes just not folding 99 there,

this is the stupidest thread ever and i don't think any of it even happened

i love knowing the suits of his cards, not that any suit was mentioned in the OP

What's the standard openraise in a 50/100/200 live game (can't imagine 400 being a normal amount)?

+1

There seems to be this strange phenemon where in ante NL games people consistently underraise the pot pre-flop. I have seen many a 50/100 with 200 dead ante on button have very small opens like in the 300-500 range when it should be in the 600-900 range. I dont really understand it, but Im not rolled to play these games so I cant really complain..

there's no strange phenomenon at work, and pots aren't being underraised. ante money is different than blind money.

if gabe should never fold, doesn't that make the bluff worse?

How so?

ante money is truly dead, and belongs to no one in the sense of counting towards a call.

in a straight 100-200 game, an open-raise to 500 is almost a minraise. the bb can call for just 1.5 big-blinds more, that would indeed be an underraise. 700 is a pot-sized raise.

in contrast, an open to 500 in a 50-100 200 ante game means the bb would need to put out 4 more big-blinds in order to call. 500 is nearly pot, as 550 is the literal pot-sized raise.

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obv not real

move up to where they respect your raises

wat.

this can't be real.

I don't get why everyone thinks this hand is fake. Anyone who lives in Vegas can stop by the Venetian and verify the validity of the hand in about 5 minutes.

Sure, as long as the kid is a superuser and knows Gabe has 9s full and never a bluff himself.

Hypothetically lets say we have a 1/2 blind game with 1000 dead. What should you raise to if its 3-handed and your on the button? This is sort of the same situation as an $1000 pot post-flop where one player has bet $1 and the next has raised to $2. If you want to raise, you make it around $1000 if you wanted to raise the pot.

Now in a blind situation where you have 100/200 with 1 dead and your on the button again, thats like if you started with a 1$ pot and someone bet $100 and the next person raised to $200. If you wanted to raise the pot you'd have to put in more than just $300, youd have to put in 700. So what Mikech says makes sense to me. But conceptually its a little tricky for my brain to understand.

A more interesting question is do ante games force people to play looser if they want to play optimally? Obviously you can limp way looser, but can you a call an equivalent size raise looser too? I think you can but im not sure.

meh, gabe's line looks real strong to me and not at all bluffy.

What exactly beats you here?

K4, K6, KK, K9.... how the hell do you not snap this?

hand is real, can confirm

How does Gabe make money at poker?

hand is stupid, obvious call

discussion about antes is more interesting though

Let's not forget SB RR some precentage of his KK (the only hand that beats Gabe) which makes it even MORE 44, 66, bluff

Absolutley ridiciulous fold.

I think Gabe won´t sleep for weeks
@Op What was his behaviour after he saw the bluff?