i think a big ace can raise this river given that u pot control weak aces on the turn and will definetly bet a 9 on the turn

super sick, but i think i would have to call but that could just be me leveling myself or w/e. Its a very confusing spot that i would just need to call and find out or my brain will knot itself or somethin

folding this would be just plain awful

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Great read.

did we call?

we did, 'villian' shows 22. worth reading through though imo

STOP THE BUMPTARDAGE

This is one of the best hands posted in HSNL forum. I remember reading it before, but it was still interesting to read it again.

snap call

lol at snap call, I think it's prolly a bad call in a vaccum, unless he floats flop with like K-high. It's pretty clear that he either 1) has a hand that he thinks has some showdown value on the river (otherwise he would have donked river), but when hero bets, villain realizes he can't call, and decides to rep 9x or a big ace, given that our range is so weak. So what hands can he do that with? Kx, and like 22-44. 5x is strong enough to check/call river.

Or 2), he actually check/called flop with A-high/9x and decided to check/raise river. Ax is obv strong enough to check/raise river with since we never check back turn with a strong hand...

So yea, if you routinely see him check/calling like K6s on this flop and trying to get to SD with it, then I guess bet/calling river is fine... but otherwise he just has too few hands to bluff with to make it a good call imo.

Just read thru it, and that probably made zero sense, but whatevr, can't be arsed to edit it all...

no, ifs, that's excellent analysis.

i came to the conclusion that if we're betting, we should bet/call since our range is so weak and we never have a monster here. but i never considered that his bluffing range is actually pretty narrow. although i do think he c/r a few Qxdd and 5x hands. i think c/cing with 5x here is pretty bad actually. so yeah, i think i'd still call if i bet against a good opponent.