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Old 01-08-2007, 07:02 AM   #1
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Jman\'s River c/r Hand of the Week (300/600nl)

Playing Roland de Wolfe HU 3/6. Hes very tricky/aggro. He has c/r'd a lot of flops so his c/c here surprised me. I would expect him to c/r a 9 almost all the time.

The match has been like a high stakes RPS match because we keep realizing that each other keep adjusting to the others' play and then we readjust. He also likes to play weird mind games. For instance, I started the match cbetting 3k into 3600 on most flops. He did too. Part of the way in, I switched to 2400 and the next time he cbet, he switched to 2400 and kept cbetting that. One hand I 3bet him and bet 6600 on flop. Three hands later he 3bet me and bet 6600. It wasnt an accident. I'm not sure if that has any impact on your view of this hand.

Effective stacks 32k.

I raise 75o to $1800 in sb, he calls

Flop 9 5 9 ($3600)

He checks, I bet $2400, he calls

Turn A ($8400)

check, check

River 7 ($8400)

He checks, I bet $6600, he shoves (~20.5k to call)

Keep in mind that I have 3 pairs.

(At the time I didn't know, but I'm about 75% sure this was Patrik Antonius on Roland's acct.)
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:17 AM   #2
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Re: Jman\'s River c/r Hand of the Week (300/600nl)

Assuming this is on FTP vs "Roland de Wolfe", I'd put a lot of money that it's not him on the account.
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:18 AM   #3
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Assuming this is on FTP vs "Roland de Wolfe", I'd put a lot of money that it's not him on the account.
I went into the game knowing that this was a good possibility. Whoever it was, my reads in the OP were based on that person.
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:23 AM   #4
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Re: Jman\'s River c/r Hand of the Week (300/600nl)

I'd not call this, but then again I'd not bet river either.
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:32 AM   #5
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Re: Jman\'s River c/r Hand of the Week (300/600nl)

Jman, am I wrong or did he take you for a decent clip?
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:38 AM   #6
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Jman, am I wrong or did he take you for a decent clip?
Not that much, no. I lost my ass at 1/2 and 2/4 though.
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probably antonius no one gives him action at 3-6.
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:15 AM   #8
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That's 100% Patrik. Earlier he was playing PLO 3 handed with Gus and Reese and before Gus got up to leave he said "Good night Patrik"
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:17 AM   #9
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I usually don't post high level thinking stuff here. This is the most interesting hand I've ever posted on 2p2 and no one seems to want to talk about it.
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:19 AM   #10
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Maybe because that riverbet is taking it one step too far?
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:26 AM   #11
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Maybe because that riverbet is taking it one step too far?
No. Saying that constitutes talking about the hand.

I disagree btw. I have 3 pairs!
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:54 AM   #12
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I usually don't post high level thinking stuff here. This is the most interesting hand I've ever posted on 2p2 and no one seems to want to talk about it.
I don't know if you should call or not but value betting this thinly against good players isn't a very good idea.
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:00 AM   #13
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I usually don't post high level thinking stuff here. This is the most interesting hand I've ever posted on 2p2 and no one seems to want to talk about it.

I don't know if you should call or not but value betting this thinly against good players isn't a very good idea.
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:03 AM   #14
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Re: Jman\'s River c/r Hand of the Week (300/600nl)

Sorry if these are stupid questions... I don't play against thinking players.

Is he always 3-betting 66-88 preflop?

He c/rs Ax almost all of the time, in addition to any 9 or 55, right? How do you think he plays 67/78/68 on the flop?

Does he peel the flop with A-high ever on this board? K-high?

I think this is a fold. I can really only see two ways that this can be a bluff, and they're both big long shots, IMHO:

1) He didn't 3-bet pre with a KQ/KJ/KTish hand and decided to peel the flop.
2) He chose not to 3-bet pre with 22/33/44/66, and decided to turn them into bluffs on the river.

I hate your river bet, but I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm biased by results.
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:07 AM   #15
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Would you expect a good player at these limits to be capable of playing 86 this way?
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