The appropriate meme is definitely Scooby Doo gang with "I would've gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids!" I can't find it anywhere, though .

Dont **** with Noah lol.

Jesus, I only read post #1,2 and the clffs but damn

well done

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Well done Noah. I am going to re-read to make sure I fully understand all the material presented.

I initially defend Nick but this is pretty damming evidence. I couldn't then and still can't understand the why he would do something like this, but you never know I guess. Any idea what sort of edge was derivived from their apparent soft playing?

First of all, awesome work. I'm very grateful for the time and effort you and the various other people involved put into this.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, though, how do you go from showing that the stoxtrader accounts and the littlezen accounts played very strangely against eachother (which I think you've proven way beyond a reasonable doubt) to showing that they colluded? I guess a big part of the question is how you define collusion.

To be clear, I'm very convinced that something unacceptable was going on between these two players. I would never sit in a game with both of them. However, especially in light of PokerStars unfathomably bizarre stance on softplaying (i.e. once the pot is heads up, anything goes), it seems worth getting into how we know the difference between playing strangely and cheating.

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Edit: how many hours did it take to write this down?

All money of theirs should be confiscated and some portion of it given to those that contributed to making this great evidence.

I have nothing to do with the world of HSNL online, but jesus, that is just amazing.

sick work

Don't let me interrupt the circle jerk, but you have not proven collusion at all.

II really hope FTP/PS didn't allow Nick, LittleZen, and Kinetica to withdraw their money as all of it should be confiscated if all this damning evidence is true. They should also be embarrassed imo.

What information are you looking for?

I think there are plenty of contextual clues for us to use to answer that. As per the other thread where this was discussed, they had highly correlated session times (they tended to play together more frequently than random), and it's almost certain that LZ/Kinetica is stox's friend Rob Papp. In the context of this information, it is 100% certain they were cheating.

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When am I ever going to have time to play poker with interesting articles like this to read on 2+2?? Thank you Noah.