Hello community,

I'm frustrated I've been playing for a long time (years) and constantly studying (books, videos of sites, review of my own hands), even for periods at full time, with profits but nothing outstanding.
Before I used to play FR and now I play 6max, but in both formats the same thing has happened to me, I easily and consistently win 10NL but in 25NL I am a roller coaster, I can not win in a clear and consistent way.

Recent sample last 2 months HEM2 (frustration to the maximum after losing 12 BI, 8 BI EV adj, in the last 12k hands of 25NL)
10NL - 51k hands - + $ 314 (+ $ 496 EV adj) - VPIP 22 - PFR 18 - 3B 8.5 - 2.86 Agg - WTSD 25 - W $ SD 50.9 - W $ WSF 49.3 - bb / 100 6.10
25NL - 66k hands - + $ 127 (+ $ 52 EV adj) - VPIP 22 - PFR 18 - 3B 8.5 - 3.31 Agg - WTSD 24 - W $ SD 49.9 - W $ WSF 46.4 - bb / 100 0.76

Total sample last year played HEM2
10NL - 197k hands - + $ 1015 (+ $ 1296 EV adj) - VPIP 20 - PFR 16 - 3B 6.1 - 2.28 Agg - WTSD 23.9 - W $ SD 52.1 - W $ WSF 47 - bb / 100 5.15
25NL - 163k hands - + $ 53 (- $ 81 EV adj) - VPIP 20 - PFR 16 - 3B 6.2 - 3.18 Agg - WTSD 23.3 - W $ SD 50.9 - W $ WSF 45.8 - bb / 100 0.13

*no rakeback included (but in today PS programs are very insignificant)

I am aware that my samples are somewhat small (I am currently trying to put + 50k hands per month), possible downs and etc but it is that in total I have been with this situation for over a year now

In August I earned almost $ 600 in about 63k hands of 10NL & 25NL (the gains are about 50% in each level), in September I played less because I studied much more (that explains the evolution of my most recent stats) and earn about $ 250 in approx 42k hands of 25NL

I am very grateful for any advice or criticism, however painful it may be, I hope to find people who have overcome something similar or who can give me an external point of view of what may be happening.

Greetings and thanks in advance for your time

what do you want to hear?
Im not familiar with how the situation is today but there used to be a huge gap between Nl10 and Nl25 back in the day. In addition rake especially in the micros is insane with the laughable amount of RB you get these days.
My advice is: if you can afford it do good game selection and play Nl100

man I want to hear anything really, you never know what you can be overlooking or missing and might be easy to see by a fellow colleague, for example your comment

thank you very much for your input! with it I realize that my game selection, even though it isn't the worst, isn't the best. Why? Because I am used to beat 10NL at any time that is doesn't make too much difference for me in that level to look for the best schedules, do you got any recommendations in that matter? I supposed weekends and some window of time in regular days

also I am planning to consider your other advice and move up as soon as possible

If you can't beat NL25 moving up to NL100 doesn't sound like the best idea I've ever heard, even with the rake.

The rake is outrageous, especially on stars. Play somewhere else. Also game select. It's amazing how many otherwise good players don't. Maybe an ego thing. If you're at a table with a bunch of obvious regs, leave, even if you're better that them. The rake will murder all of you. Lots of tables with terrible players at NL25. Find one and stay there until the fish bust, then leave again. No excuses for not doing it.

Definitely try spreading your roll across softer sites.

160,000 hands is laughable, u could still be a crusher/loser at the stake
ive had 100K+ be stretches many times

volume and study ma fwend

Really? :O That gives me a new perspective. I thought that after 100K hands, variance will have evened out to an extend

I've always been told 200k hands actually isn't that much. I think you might be overlooking that.

Also, rigorous table selection is insanely important. I really don't consider myself that good (I'm sure I would be a losing player among a bunch of 10NL regulars), but If I table select enough I win at 10NL.

That means when a fish busts I leave the table. I color code bad players and make notes anytime I get a chance. And also, when a seat opens to the left of a fishy player I take it. It's a pain in the ass, but it is absolutely worth it.

^^just to give u an idea, im breakeven on z25 on stars after 200K hands but am 5bb on 50z after 300khands

we have no idea how bad variance can be

Thats insane
Need to get more hands in I guess!
Thank you for sharing!

Thank you all very much for your comments, a lot of good insights and perspectives for my to continue pushing forward.

Yeah obviously I won't do the shot at higher levels in a crazy way, but it made me realize that I have to consider also the rake with the net won, to have a better picture of how I am actually doing at that level.

Any recommendations of sites?

Thanks for sharing man, how many tables & hands per day do you play?

I do game select fairly well and actually do all the color coding and fish hunting stuff, what I was overlooking the most was the schedules in which I play, do you have any recommendations in that matter? I suppose that weekends and some window of time in regular days, any help would be very appreciated

I have a regular job, so no, I play when I have the time.

I play on Coral Poker (Ipoker network) and I have a 30% rakeback deal through VIP grinders. Rakeback can also make a big difference.

What are all the people better than you doing? You should have decent samples and/or otherwise know who the better regs are at those stakes.

The reality is you probably have leaks in your game that you aren't even aware of and they can be fairly big. I think at your level spending a bit of money on some coaching to help you fix leaks would be a reasonable investment.

Yeah, I am considering changing to a site with a RB deal, thanks for sharing

Thanks for your input, any recommendations of a good coach to review the leaks of my game?
I have already invested in books, videos and software; but never in a coach to review my game directly.

I’m in a similar boat right now. I beat 10NL over 50k hands but I am losing at 25NL over 25k hands (I know low sample size).

I am seriously considering doing a coaching for profits type deal where it’s a 50/50 split and you sign a contract for a year. You have to put serious volume in but the program gives me some structure and daily hand goals to reach.

Thanks for sharing, do you have any recommendations for where to find good coaching for profits deals?