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onepac,
you sure youve never played on the longcon account??

so your boy knew your email address and used your full name to set up a two plus two account and post the same numbers at the end of his email account. yeah ok

I went come come w the acct holder a bunch of times. Bought his action a bunch of times. Sweated him many times. Should I list every person here whose house I was at, bought 50 percent of their action and sat next to em going ovr situations?

rtk,

with all the valid things to take issue with, you choose this thing that he's at least answered fully to pick on?

onepac stated that he started the twoplustwo account longcon (IN THE POST YOU QUOTED).

I set up the 2p2 to address a thread regarding the traeho conversation

I get the feeling that neither player is going to concede this bet. I also get the feeling that Onepac will not agree to arbitration.

Onepac, I highly recommend you pay back the 2K guy. The last guy over 40 who hadn't been laid in over 15 years killed a bunch of women in a gym in PA. Send him some "protein mix" as an apology.

PS, Viffer destroyed you here.

This would be the definition of unethical/cheating. One player to a hand. Overall, this thread has shown that you're a joke. so sad.

Sounds plausible!

Onepac, do you have anyone that can confirm your version of events?

that is a lie. i was on the phone with you while you were playing 3 handed with alec and foldtocash.

remember the k3 hand? you had 2 pair and the river brought the ugly broadway card. you checked, alec fired and the first thought in your head was FOLD.

i said, "why"?

you said, "theres nothing i beat".

i said, "he knows you know this. what are you waiting for??, CALL!"

alec showed complete air 8 or 9 high i think.......but any observer would have seen the hands face up.

shall we go into the the AK hand you played out of position to foldtocash?

foldtocash raises on the button, you reraise from the sb or bb, i cant remember exactly.

you flop top pair "K" on a two club or two spade board.

i dont remeber exactly if you checked or bet the flop but i DO remember you got "ONE" street of value and the river went check/check.

foldtocash typed in the chat box before he checked, something like, "i dont see how i can get away with a bluff here".......or something relevant to that fact and checked behind.

now, i could have easily been an observer and never been on the phone with you.

but heres my proof, check check on the river, the winning hand (longcon/yours) is going to show and foldtocash's hand is not going to be seen by railbird observers.

how do i know that foldtocash had wheel gutshot/nutflush draw on the flop?

he had 2 black cards, either A 4 or A 5 of spades or clubs. i cant remember which suit......but they were BLACK.

if foldtocash has a data base or a fairly decent memory, this can be proven easily and i put my life up on this that the above statements is 100% fact.

it was you jesse.

Many

When we were all on spkr phone? Congrats. Paul. Pleaseeee.

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there is no one player to a hand rule in online poker.

I assume you're joking. Multi-accounting is treated like the crime of all crimes, but I guess as long as you're not the one clicking the mouse, feel free to sit behind anyone you want and play for them????

I understand it's something that can't be enforced, but that doesn't make it less cheating or less unethical.

dude, your sherade is over. just give it up. your really sounding pathetic now. there was no multiway speaker phone conversation. it was me and you on the phone. simple as that.

and by the way, the guy who messaged you about the longcon thread was me too. remember?

i would like to make it extremely clear to anyone that is following this thread that i have never been introduced, mentioned to, overheard or suspected anyone that handled the longcon account on ftp other than jesse.

nobody else.

dont make this thread more ******ed by discussing how many players to a hand in online pokers

poker_is_hard,

whether or not it is unethical, multi accounting is explicitly against the rules at every online cardroom, as far as i know, while multiple players to a hand is not. cheating by definition is "explicitly against the rules," while unethical has something to do with morality. morality and the rules do not always match up. while the case may be that online card rooms do not ban multiple players to a hand because of unenforcability concerns, it is irrelevant. what he is saying he did is not cheating or stealing, nor is it multi-accounting.

what he is being accused of, is multi-accounting. it is not the same thing he is admitting to.

if you believe that everyone who has received a sweat session from a friend or coach has been cheating or acting unethically, that is fine too. personally i have long believed that the situation player 1 pays player 2 for coaching consisting of player 2 watching player 1 play and telling him when he should do something differently than he was going to do is sketchy as hell, since the opponent (especially in heads up games) probably would choose not to play against the coach. however, that doesn't mean it's cheating.

edit: what jma said.

I don't understand? If a player plays under a different screenname b/c he doesnt want pple to know its him and pple wont have in depth pokertracker info on them that is cheating? Poker isnt poker anymore! its liek the NFl and not being able to hit people hard anymore or you get fined big

Fair enough. I see the distinction you are making. I would still put forward, that playing on a speaker phone (lol @ that btw) with two other people working as a "team" to make decisions speaks towards a person's character, and in my opinion helps prove the point that this guy is shady and not to be trusted.

nah, what you should do is give up.

you just sound like a two-bit hustler that cant keep his lies straight.

I would lie to thank everyone for their participation, especially my buddy paul, and my very good buddy viffer. U guys helped me win my thread prop bet w perky. Shippitydippity. There's still a "bonus" to be acquired tho, so let's keep it runnin. Lol

while i agree with what you are saying when its applied to "intentional teaming", in the case of me and jesse, it wasnt like that. i never had a vested interest. it was just two buddies on the phone and one is playing (jesse) and i am sweating the action and asking what he's holding and yada yada yada. i mean, we are all mostly action junkies, are we not?

i am not here to drag anyone through the mud. i'm just here to simply tell the truth. jesse made a claim about this situation that was a complete lie and i'm here to clarify it and prove it. i'm not 100% certain but i believe foldtocash can varify the hand which proves i saw the hole cards and proves i'm telling the truth.

to my knowledge, jesse has never "intentionally teamed" with anyone during an online session to gain an unfair advantage.

i know for a fact that he had a very good player playing on his longcon account one time while they were together in the same room, but i will never disclose that person's name.

NEVER

it wouldnt be fair to the other guy and its not relevant to the real issue here........jesse's character and motives.

thats the real issue here.

will the real FTP "longcon" please stand up?

there in lies the key to this whole debacle.

Jesse, since you won monies from this thread why not just pay Paul the 2143$ you "VOUCHED" for to be sent to longcon by Paul and then you settle up w/ real FTP longcon?

Is it because "you don't speak to him anymore?"

You've mentioned the vouches you've made at private nosebleed games for 5 digit sums...so are you saying when it comes to 2k your vouch isn't credible/enforceable and therefore you are not on the hook for the 2k?

vouch= a man's word = stand up individual = everything to honorable people

I mean seriously "are you that ******ed?"