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Old 02-05-2012, 05:48 AM   #616
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It's not only about the talent. Compare the number of hands per month bumhunters play opposed to the number of hands regs play.

Bumhunters don't care about the game, don't care about improving, they are just here to leech off the poker economy.

What I hate most about them is my 6max sessions usually last only as long as fish is at the table. You can't just sit and play a 4tabling or 6tabling 6max session because the games are running only rarely and only shortly. It really sux when you start a session and it just stops after 100 hands of 1tabling 6max when the fish busts, you're stuck and you just got warmed up and are pumped to play, but can't find any action on 2 sites.

It's also hard to get a big sample of them to exploit them the most because you don't get to play enough hands with them.

It's frustrating.
lima, you say you just started playing 2.5 years ago, ~how many hands have you played so far lifetime?
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Old 02-05-2012, 08:15 AM   #617
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lima, you say you just started playing 2.5 years ago, ~how many hands have you played so far lifetime?
I honestly don't know. I lost my complete database before 2011.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:35 AM   #618
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a solution could be: add a report player button. Send an email to all HS players (same ones who got the one about teh high stakes rake increases) with a list of things you can report a player for.

all the extra rake stars will now get from the HS rake increases can be used to have atleast 1 person monitoring the reports and first warning then temp banning players who break whatever rules stars agrees to.

the staff monitoring the situation would obv take some serious training but it would be a pretty decent solution imo
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:41 AM   #619
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I honestly don't know. I lost my complete database before 2011.
how many did you play in 2011 and multiply by 2.5
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:11 PM   #620
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I hope this discussion does not only consider high stakes. I would love to see global waiting lists at any stake, mid, low or high.

It would be great for all players, even the fish that will have it easier to find a table. Simply join one single golabal waiting list or sit in at an empty/semi filled table.

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Old 02-08-2012, 12:49 PM   #621
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Re: Help Me Improve the Games on Pokerstars

I would rather pokerstars sort out there VIP Club for Micro Stakes players.

You can play 30-40k Hands @ $5nl and not even reach the 2nd VIP Level for 21% RB.

40k hands a month at boring stakes isn't seen as enough loyalty, I think other sites would see this differently.
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Old 02-08-2012, 01:28 PM   #622
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Re: Help Me Improve the Games on Pokerstars

I know one thing. Bringing up rake wont do any good. I mean most fish aren't even aware of it and it is best it stays that way.
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:02 AM   #623
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Hi HSNL,
i´m more a silent reader on 2+2 for years than an active poster,because i´m more active on ps.de but the reason i´m writing here isn´t so funny.
Ps.de as you may know is a very,very big community and there are certain players who try to rig your vote.This has been posted in the general poker forum of ps.de and the bbv(which is famous for rigging votes)
"IMPORTANT/NO JOKE-Massive threat for the poker ecology

This is a really serious thing right here!
There´s a lobby of highskilled pros,who try to change the games on stars for their advantage.Some of you may already heard of it-the main actors are Phil Galfond and Sauce.
There´ve been made suggestions from this lobby which all lead to one goal:to make winning for the mediocre player(so us-the masses) close to impossible and to transfer all of the fishaction to the highskilled pros.
The cruel thing about this is that stars is actually listening to them because they see these players as a voice which represent the whole community.
For example there´s a suggestions that you can´t just put yourself on a waitlist for a table of your choice as you used to.Instead if there´s a certain number of people on the waitlist already you´re just going to be on a completely new table with these people(obv. just with regs)which you have to play in order to stay at the former waitlist.The winners will be the top 5% of players and the client.That´s what it´s all about with the suggestions of this movement.
All these suggestions are so phrased that for outsiders it might appear as it would "improve" the games,but if you´ll think just a bit about it you can easily spot that this is not true and def. not their intention at all!
Unfortunately most of you won´t think about and just adopt the
opinion of leaders such as Phil Galfond.With a fatal extent-already now there are a lot of voices for these dangerous changes.
Maybe you´re not at these stakes right now,but if these changes will happen you won´t even get the CHANCE to climb up there!
Maybe some of you don´t play HU-non the less these changes will directly affect YOU!The fish will be busted by the highskilled pro´s way faster than under the current circumstances.
There´s NO need for a change at stars.Please vote in the suitable polls.Yes,there´s a 2+2 Acc needed to do it-but honestly as a poker player you need this account so or so.
The only right thing is obviously NO CHANGE"

Then he lists the links to your polls.I think this is pretty dangerous because specially at the BBV there are a lot of blind people who just follow and "liafu"(the poster of it) because he´s a so called Blackmember.There are some supporters in the german community such as "praios"(hehe,who would´ve thought ).
A lot of people are trying to clear things up and stop this propaganda but the whole post of this f´ing bumhunter is just a joke!!
Please be aware of it and sorry for my bad english,tried my best and i hope you all get the point
Link to ps.de thread
http://de.pokerstrategy.com/forum/th...tuser=0&page=1
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:52 AM   #624
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Hi HSNL,
i´m more a silent reader on 2+2 for years than an active poster,because i´m more active on ps.de but the reason i´m writing here isn´t so funny.
Ps.de as you may know is a very,very big community and there are certain players who try to rig your vote.This has been posted in the general poker forum of ps.de and the bbv(which is famous for rigging votes)
"IMPORTANT/NO JOKE-Massive threat for the poker ecology

This is a really serious thing right here!
There´s a lobby of highskilled pros,who try to change the games on stars for their advantage.Some of you may already heard of it-the main actors are Phil Galfond and Sauce.
There´ve been made suggestions from this lobby which all lead to one goal:to make winning for the mediocre player(so us-the masses) close to impossible and to transfer all of the fishaction to the highskilled pros.
The cruel thing about this is that stars is actually listening to them because they see these players as a voice which represent the whole community.
For example there´s a suggestions that you can´t just put yourself on a waitlist for a table of your choice as you used to.Instead if there´s a certain number of people on the waitlist already you´re just going to be on a completely new table with these people(obv. just with regs)which you have to play in order to stay at the former waitlist.The winners will be the top 5% of players and the client.That´s what it´s all about with the suggestions of this movement.
All these suggestions are so phrased that for outsiders it might appear as it would "improve" the games,but if you´ll think just a bit about it you can easily spot that this is not true and def. not their intention at all!
Unfortunately most of you won´t think about and just adopt the
opinion of leaders such as Phil Galfond.With a fatal extent-already now there are a lot of voices for these dangerous changes.
Maybe you´re not at these stakes right now,but if these changes will happen you won´t even get the CHANCE to climb up there!
Maybe some of you don´t play HU-non the less these changes will directly affect YOU!The fish will be busted by the highskilled pro´s way faster than under the current circumstances.
There´s NO need for a change at stars.Please vote in the suitable polls.Yes,there´s a 2+2 Acc needed to do it-but honestly as a poker player you need this account so or so.
The only right thing is obviously NO CHANGE"

Then he lists the links to your polls.I think this is pretty dangerous because specially at the BBV there are a lot of blind people who just follow and "liafu"(the poster of it) because he´s a so called Blackmember.There are some supporters in the german community such as "praios"(hehe,who would´ve thought ).
A lot of people are trying to clear things up and stop this propaganda but the whole post of this f´ing bumhunter is just a joke!!
Please be aware of it and sorry for my bad english,tried my best and i hope you all get the point
Link to ps.de thread
http://de.pokerstrategy.com/forum/th...tuser=0&page=1
Yeah, greedy and scummy highstakes regulars who are working on their game all the time and putting a lot of effort to improve themselves and try to make more games running are trying to leech off poor honest nice and innocent bumhunters.

Please shoot yourself in the face.

Btw, I love the argument that fish love playing bumhunters because real regs will bust them faster.
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:58 AM   #625
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Re: Help Me Improve the Games on Pokerstars

just to clear things up,hope you didnt understand me wrong lima
this is NOT my opinion at all!!
just wanted to share it with you guys,so you know whats up elsewhere
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:17 AM   #626
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just to clear things up,hope you didnt understand me wrong lima
this is NOT my opinion at all!!
just wanted to share it with you guys,so you know whats up elsewhere
Oh, you just translated their post lol. Why am I not surprised it's the Germans?
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:26 AM   #627
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hm,maybe cause you´re racist?
there a lot of people in the german community who support your ideas and share your opinion,but it´s sad to see how liafu and praios try to influence the people that these changes are a bad idea.
i´m done here for now
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:53 AM   #628
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hm,maybe cause you´re racist?
there a lot of people in the german community who support your ideas and share your opinion,but it´s sad to see how liafu and praios try to influence the people that these changes are a bad idea.
i´m done here for now
thanks for posting, there are lots of germans who are not scumbags at the high limits so it's good to hear they're not letting liafu and praios influence people too much.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:55 AM   #629
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thanks for posting, there are lots of germans who are not scumbags at the high limits so it's good to hear they're not letting liafu and praios influence people too much.
True. I know more than a few germans who are not scumbags. A lot of them who are, tho (swapping screennames, multiaccounting, playing each others' accounts). From my experience, praios seemed to be in the non-scumbag group. (nm, the guy i thought was praios just told me he isn't the original praios lol)

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Old 02-09-2012, 12:03 PM   #630
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hm,maybe cause you´re racist?
lol at Germans calling anyone else racist
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