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Straight vs fish on paired board Straight vs fish on paired board

06-06-2014 , 07:30 PM
Full Tilt poker $100/$200 6-max cash game
Villain is been in this game for a while, he is probably a rich bussines men who enjoy playing high stakes and gamble. He is in his third buy-in for $10K, he got broke when he got in with a gutshot on the turn vs a set, called a shove with AK high on a double paired board, the fact is that he had just 5-bet shoved over me with 5h4c, i called with KsKd, and he got there with a club flush, so i was a little angry about him. Maybe that because i end doing what i did.
On this hand he was about $20K.
Hero have A
UTG:$ 18.904,36
MP:$ 34,564,00
Hero:$ 30,110,87
Villain:$ 19, 412,24
SB: 26,034,30
BB:$42,818,94
Two folds, Hero raises $600 with Ad4h, villain calls, both blinds fold.
Flop
5c3c2d
Hero bets $1118,40, villain calls.
Turn
Ks
Hero bets $2048,90, villain calls.
River
5s
Hero checks, villain bets $3200, hero checkeaises shove, villain calls and shows 22 for a boat.
I knew i made a mistake, i was angry and let it dominate my mind, but since i don't think bet fold this river would be good, i would like to know if you would do the same or just check call that looked weak for me.
Any sugestion is welcome
Time to refocus and study my game until i get calm and feel better to come back to the table

Last edited by Killingperfection; 06-06-2014 at 07:40 PM. Reason: Forget to post my cards
06-06-2014 , 07:35 PM
Forget to say but villain is a 38/21/11 player with a 3.12 agressive factor.
06-06-2014 , 10:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Killingperfection
Full Tilt poker $100/$200 6-max cash game
Villain is been in this game for a while, he is probably a rich bussines men who enjoy playing high stakes and gamble. He is in his third buy-in for $10K, he got broke when he got in with a gutshot on the turn vs a set, called a shove with AK high on a double paired board, the fact is that he had just 5-bet shoved over me with 5h4c, i called with KsKd, and he got there with a club flush, so i was a little angry about him. Maybe that because i end doing what i did.
On this hand he was about $20K.
Hero have A
UTG:$ 18.904,36
MP:$ 34,564,00
Hero:$ 30,110,87
Villain:$ 19, 412,24
SB: 26,034,30
BB:$42,818,94
Two folds, Hero raises $600 with Ad4h, villain calls, both blinds fold.
Flop
5c3c2d
Hero bets $1118,40, villain calls.
Turn
Ks
Hero bets $2048,90, villain calls.
River
5s
Hero checks, villain bets $3200, hero checkeaises shove, villain calls and shows 22 for a boat.
I knew i made a mistake, i was angry and let it dominate my mind, but since i don't think bet fold this river would be good, i would like to know if you would do the same or just check call that looked weak for me.
Any sugestion is welcome
Time to refocus and study my game until i get calm and feel better to come back to the table
I grind no way near your limit but if this was played at my limit or even live, i know you have to fold on a paired board no matter how hard it is. Especially how he played the hand, when he calls flop you can put him on a flush draw/set/straight draw... but when he calls the turn i'd probably go more to a set given how he called you pre-flop.

I'm guessing he re-raises jacks/queens/kings/aces AK, and re-raises the flop with them hand's also.

Also it's likely that his range on the river is air/nuts, for most recreational players.

Basically bet river and fold to a shove, or check call his bet if you are getting good odds.

That's just my 2 cents anyway, ul hand gl in the future <3

Last edited by tasttyyy; 06-06-2014 at 10:39 PM.
06-07-2014 , 03:48 AM
Pre-Flop - borderline. But this is obviously a range issue and and at this point in poker's evolution I think post-flop discussion is mas importante in the forum setting, but FWIW, I'd probably fold here.

FLOP: Rock starred it. Jammed It...I like it. The only thought I had here was maybe even a bit more closer to pot, or even slightly over pot. If he calls, we can pretty much assume he has a set. If he is on a draw we put him in a good spot to make an error by calling. And if he raises, well, we call obvi. We do sacrifice a bit of value I suppose with this line, but with the clubs out there and all the combo draws, making it more expensive doesn't seem like thee worst thing

Turn: Still a rock star. Jammed it again. I still like it. Same thought I had on flop about betting more. We want to get it in. And at this point it smells like a draw, set, better straight, or maybe overpair. We need to be charging this guy.

River: Unfortunate river card. Check-call seems right. He either bluffs here or he has the goods. He's not value betting top pair if he flatted this whole way. He would want a cheap showdown. So it looks like he either sniped it on the river, had the 4-6 or is bluffing. You have to call. Raising does nothing...but you know that.

Tough beat bro. Lick the wounds and jump back on baby!
06-07-2014 , 04:55 AM
$100/$200

06-08-2014 , 12:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chytry
$100/$200

hahahaha
06-09-2014 , 12:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chytry
$100/$200

/thread
06-09-2014 , 07:32 AM
In flop I prefer to play to X-R cause this villain looks to wide. As played in river is a clear bet/fold for me or X-C. Again his raise range we dont have enought equity.
06-19-2014 , 01:44 AM
If you put him on 2 pair good shove but a little less profit than a big loss seems right to me
06-25-2014 , 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wager9
Pre-Flop - borderline. But this is obviously a range issue and and at this point in poker's evolution I think post-flop discussion is mas importante in the forum setting, but FWIW, I'd probably fold here.

FLOP: Rock starred it. Jammed It...I like it. The only thought I had here was maybe even a bit more closer to pot, or even slightly over pot. If he calls, we can pretty much assume he has a set. If he is on a draw we put him in a good spot to make an error by calling. And if he raises, well, we call obvi. We do sacrifice a bit of value I suppose with this line, but with the clubs out there and all the combo draws, making it more expensive doesn't seem like thee worst thing

Turn: Still a rock star. Jammed it again. I still like it. Same thought I had on flop about betting more. We want to get it in. And at this point it smells like a draw, set, better straight, or maybe overpair. We need to be charging this guy.

River: Unfortunate river card. Check-call seems right. He either bluffs here or he has the goods. He's not value betting top pair if he flatted this whole way. He would want a cheap showdown. So it looks like he either sniped it on the river, had the 4-6 or is bluffing. You have to call. Raising does nothing...but you know that.

Tough beat bro. Lick the wounds and jump back on baby!

lol no. he just 5 bet stuffed 54 off and got it in with a gutter on the turn. him calling does not limit him to a set at all.
06-28-2014 , 04:35 PM
you put 3000 in when you had him and 16,000 in when he had you.
i see losing a lot here but in a different way.

      
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