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Dave47 04-15-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Deldar182 (Post 18211871)


I think I'm fed up because I hate not being the best, or even being able to improve my game to a competitive level without hard work. Playing NL and taking idiots money still is kind of fun, but not the fun it was when I was heading towards something, for instance taking down the best in the 500/1k games. I would say that is where my career peaked and I seriously started to lose interest. This is probably why I like PLO a lot more now, I still have somewhere to go with it, and I still have something to conquer (I also like the more mechanical feel to it, it reminds me of scrabble).

I never liked heads up matches much unless I was crushing, and I never really had a big ego like some of the other players out there, which is kind of of strange, as deep down I always wished I was a great player. Unfortunately I knew I was (and am) somewhat of a hopeless button clicker despite what some say...

I did enjoy the thrill of moving up to the next limit, especially when it was 100/200+, but I no longer have that going for the game. It's just a grind. Obviously its hard to assess my true feelings when I'm on a downswing or major upswing though, so yes clearly this is skewing the way I see things- but I've had two major downswings before and this is the most serious I've been about quitting.

Very interesting- you certainly don`t have much of an ego... the phrase "It`s just a grind" is the one that strikes out at me-the fact u don`t have a higher limit to move up to is the reason for this sentence, and no doubt tells us a lot about ur attitude towards poker- exactly what I don`t know, but obviously there are less things to motivate you to play now.

milkywaykid 04-15-2010 09:14 AM

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i seriously doubt American college is any better than Australian universities in terms of having a great time. i have been to two unis here and have had an absolute ball, honestly if you just want to have a great time go to university, it really is a great way to spend 3+ years.

honestly it is a little worrying that you think it is like high school, and you made no new friends, for me, clearly you will get the most enjoyment from life from the great relationships you make. btw, i would seriously never tell anyone you are a millionaire at uni.

i loved uni so much i have gone back again for 3 more years after being there already for 4, and to all those that think that it sucks to be working some dead end job to get money to live at uni, really, really miss the whole point. i have played poker for a while, and it has made me money, at least enough to live but i have also worked to pay for life, and working in a bar or something is great, you meet heaps of people, party and girls are everywhere.

thinking that uni life is hard or sucks is just ridiculous, i think hs players are clearly talented, but it's not the greatest thing in the world, and the fact that so many think that just ordinary life sucks are just missing the point completely. it is this case that eventually ends in you feeling that emptiness that you feel now, and i can guarantee anyone that went to uni and has given it a good go, even if they never use their degree will tell you it was one of the greatest periods in their life. the course you take is really unimportant, but you are going to have to make an effort to meet people.

so my final advice is head back to uni and immerse yourself in it, travel in the 3 months we get off over christmas and meet as many people as possible, because in the end, it's the people that matter.

jimmyhat1000 04-15-2010 09:53 AM

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Deldar,

You wouldn't remember me but we played 10/20 a few nights in a row at crown when some tournys were on a while back, someone pointed out "that Deldar guy who has won infinite online".

I remember about 2-3 years ago i had been living in Melbourne for 6 months - 1 year and went through a bit of a downswing, the money wasn't the issue, i didn't have to cut back on anything i liked to do but i remember sitting in my apartment with this feeling like my world was collapsing and wtf was i doing in Melbourne anyway. I had a chat to Jay (Seabeast) and all he basically said was "When you make poker, or anything for that matter, your entire life and that one thing goes bad of course its going to feel like everything sucks". I thought about it for a while but had no idea what i was going to do so i had other things going on, upto that point i was happy playing lots of poker so didn't really know what else to do.

Eventually i met some other friends and figured out a pretty good way to find things to get into. Your 20 at the moment, take a look around at all the dudes in the world who are 30-40 and just pick all the things you want to do be able to do/have going etc at that point in your life. Look at dudes who seem to have there life together and going well and pick all the things they have that you want to do and start working toward it.

Look a dude like PA and you might think "yep, i want to in shape, loaded, and live in a place like Monaco, but i dont want to be married with a kid at that stage". Well, i shape means starting going to the gym/eating certain ways etc, loaded you seem to have sorted but if not you have poker there.

Just keep doing this. You might want to go live have lived in 5-10 different countries by the time your 40 and of all the people in the world 20 something poker players with no wife/kids/serious girl are able to do it.

You'll eventually start adding things here and there and soon enough you've got all this stuff going on. The examples ive used are things that i want to do/have done etc when I'm 35-40 but everyone has there own. Just figure out what yours are and go with it.

bugstud 04-15-2010 11:09 AM

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you could also just find a new intellectual pursuit, it doesn't seem like your personality fits well with being idle.

Dark_Mace 04-15-2010 01:03 PM

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Deldar it ****s me to think that you and I were playing poker pro, the stupid ass $50 buyin on a 0.5/0.1 game...around 2 years ago together.

I actually didnt know you were that guy until i saw a pic of you. I was shocked to learn that the super succesful Deldar is the veyr same skinny, jewish geek i used to play $50 games with at crown.

Im super jealous of your success. In the same time i went from 0.5/0.1 to nl1k, you went to like nl100k or something. It sickens me. And i hate you. So much.

Having said that, you're not the first person to question the viability of poker. You're not the first succesful, or highly succesful player to question it either. Poker is full of varience, poker is full of bull****, but at the end of the day, would u rather sit in an office and grding accounting paperwork for 1/100th the salary?

Take a break from online poker. Play some live poker. Relax, have a drink, kick back. You have money, you have skill, your on a downswing, you can afford it...**** it. Your young and loaded...take a break. Come paly 5/10 at crown, i heard u dont give a **** and donate like a mother ****er! I could use the money.

Lana_Lang 04-15-2010 01:11 PM

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downswing is a bit exaggerating according to his PTR, he seems to be on a break-even stretch :).

tdomeski 04-15-2010 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lana_Lang (Post 18220397)
downswing is a bit exaggerating according to his PTR, he seems to be on a break-even stretch :).

FTP buddy

Yeti 04-15-2010 04:45 PM

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do you play chess? i'm sure you'd love it.

craigmarq 04-15-2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lana_Lang (Post 18220397)
downswing is a bit exaggerating according to his PTR, he seems to be on a break-even stretch :).

Yeah, you're right. You probably have a better perspective of whether or not hes in a downswing than he does. Why don't you go back to nuthugging isildur some more.

Deldar182 04-15-2010 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BraveJayhawk (Post 18186521)
tbh... I didn't read the op at all... I just kinda assumed where it was going... I'm still not going to read it though.

How do you possibly expect anyone to take you seriously? Jeez man, just don't post next time...

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Originally Posted by Stranger123 (Post 18186862)
Visit Costa Rica!

Best advice I can give you (God it's so beautiful here) :)

Been meaning to visit South America, will probably fit that in this year- ty for advice as well :)
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Originally Posted by pplayer28 (Post 18186903)
lefort, great post sir.

deldar - for the love of god please stop hit and running the shallow games =(

thirdly - how has no1 pointed out the huge non thinly veiled brag in OP

lastly - POLO!

I will start playing deeper when my skillz increase... only willing to play 10/20 deep, 25/50 lose money too fast :)
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Originally Posted by fees (Post 18190481)
are you able to keep resetting the bar? The problem is that I could pick something, lets say painting and I could get really good at painting, become a painting grinder, but at the end of the rainbow I'd expect to get a similar feeling about it

I kind of feel like this could be an issue too. Will shifting your skills to a different field and excelling in it really give you a new high?
I'm not sure myself.
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Originally Posted by sharpyetblunt (Post 18191207)
but did you not read the OP? hes lazy! so hes not gonna do any of this. Hes gonna keep playing poker and once he starts making money again everythings not gonna seem so bad and life will be back to normal.

Thats true, about making money again. That's why I think now is a good time to start seriously thinking about things.

didonk 04-15-2010 10:36 PM

Re: DELDAR182
 
get into tournaments

ike 04-15-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fees (Post 18195553)
yeah this is kind of the conclusion I've come to, just counting down the days until I can quit and start a normal life

i don't really buy this

what's a normal life and how is poker interfering?

Neab 04-15-2010 10:54 PM

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Super talented/naturally gifted poker player but also spoilt rich kid and Jewish to boot, who cant take losing. There is a god!

Jokes aside mate, stop playin for a bit, relax, chill, dont think about poker for like a month or 2 , go for a run every morning, read some books that realy appeal to your interest *not poker related obv* and have a clear mind before u make big life decisions.

Look at it this way, you're young and very wealthy and have a **** load of options. Alot of people work all their life for ****all, or ever yr for a 7 day holiday in magaluf, be grateful for what you have, don't get hung up on a game when you're as successful as you are , and don't aspire to be the best at poker as long as ivey is alive.

Deldar182 04-15-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacked n Swole (Post 18192190)
Deldar,

did u post on another poker forum as miaowmiaowchowface?

i remember you posting sick sick hhs if thats you.

are you the biggest Australian online winner? who is if it isnt you? i've always wondered this being a fellow australian poker beast

http://www.texasholdem-poker.com/forum/

THP is the forum I went to when I first started looking for pokers help online, so some of the early posts are quite comical :)

Glad I stuck to it, looks like I may have been a bit wavery at the start.

Later I just used it to post lol hands and stuff

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to H [Ah 3h]
: folds
V: raises $100 to $150
H: raises $350 to $500
: folds
: folds
: folds
: folds
V: calls $350
*** FLOP *** [9h Js Jh]
V: bets $350
H: raises $500 to $850
V: raises $500 to $1350
H: raises $500 to $1850
V: raises $500 to $2350
H: raises $2150 to $4500 and is all-in
V: folds
Uncalled bet ($2150) returned to H
H collected $5772 from pot

Here's one that caught my eye, games were good fun back then. (was always careful not to reveal my name when I was starting out, I don't know why)

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Originally Posted by nuggetz87 (Post 18197002)
deldar, u da man. funny thinking back to when i (jokingly) called you a cheater after getting repeatedly owned at 2/4 a couple years ago. i don't have any advise that hasn't been said. just find things that give you a reason to wake up every day.

haha, I remember this. That was back in the Sweet.Kr days. God I miss that guy.
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Originally Posted by enryblrak (Post 18206803)
Yo Deldar,

If u like food at all, Id buy an empty restaurant site and open your own restaurant anywere in the world u want, in your favourite cuisine.
Lots of hardwork but trust me-, its def fun and satisfying.

This is actually a pretty cool idea, and sounds rewarding and stimulating- I have had an interest in cooking since I was super young. I definitely have been planning to further this when I return home or settle down somewhere for a span of a few months.
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Originally Posted by joeri (Post 18208146)
I would like to point out that there is also some mid-way between busto hostel travelling and balla pokerplayer travelling :rolleyes:

Heh yeah true- I didn't necessarily mean travelling in the busto-est of fashions.

byang08 04-15-2010 11:32 PM

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I would suggest reading Nietzsche

Larry Legend 04-15-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by byang08 (Post 18234629)
I would suggest reading Nietzsche

do not read anything by him imo.

fees 04-16-2010 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ike (Post 18233758)
i don't really buy this

what's a normal life and how is poker interfering?

This is personal to myself. Right now I'd say I'm in grind mode, my focus in life is 100% poker. Between the amount of hours I am trying to put in and the swings that I go through it is hard for me to have enough will power or energy to be really interested in anything else. My daily routine is; wakeup, eat, poker, workout, eat, relax, sleep. There really isn't time or the willing for there to be anything else in my life right now, so it is horribly imbalanced. Every day I try more to add different things, however I am genuinely concerned with trying to dedicate myself 100% to poker so that I can start to get out of it. It might not be the best way to approach things but its working for me and I don't have another plan, so for the time being thats what it is and hopefully in time it will become more balanced and professional poker will be phased out and I can just be plainly recreational.

Anyway the word normal should be substituted for balance, and it is entirely specific to myself as my life is horribly imbalanced.


The vibe I get from you, based solely on how much you play online is that you are far more balanced in your life so you do lead what I would consider a "normal" life.

Bikolas2k 04-16-2010 12:19 AM

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go to thailand imo

boobies4me 04-16-2010 01:02 AM

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This is personal to myself. Right now I'd say I'm in grind mode, my focus in life is 100% poker. Between the amount of hours I am trying to put in and the swings that I go through it is hard for me to have enough will power or energy to be really interested in anything else. My daily routine is; wakeup, eat, poker, workout, eat, relax, sleep. There really isn't time or the willing for there to be anything else in my life right now, so it is horribly imbalanced
Mentalities like this help explain the predicament that OP is in and why he's depressed/unfulfilled. The money would have a lot more value if people had a life to go along with it. Get hobbies. Get in the weight room. Make friends. etc.

feedmykids 04-16-2010 01:14 AM

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If you want a new game to learn, I'd go with bridge. It's much harder/more complicated with poker, and you'll never be good enough to the point where you'll want to quit because you've conquered it.

AcesVsMuck 04-16-2010 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fees (Post 18183564)
At some point early on in my career i was like yeah if I could just beat 1/2 life would be sweet, today I play 25/50 and its just ok

Reading this, I thought to myself,

"Yeah. When I can go pro, life will be sweet! Wait. I wouldn't realise it then. Maybe my life is sweet now? *HEAD ASPLODE*"

I'll leave out every detail to avoid risk of getting OT, but at the very least, this thread has helped one person get a better perspective for themselves.

Fubster 04-16-2010 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by byang08 (Post 18234629)
I would suggest reading Nietzsche

oh god anything but this

oldjude 04-16-2010 05:41 AM

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omfg acesVSmuck i have never lol'ed so hard at a gif before in my life, wp sir.

oldjude 04-16-2010 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fubster (Post 18238984)
oh god anything but this

why? Cliffs on him please. I know he was a philosopher, but what? was he shamed and his theories proven wrong or something?

Jacked n Swole 04-16-2010 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Deldar182 (Post 18234074)
http://www.texasholdem-poker.com/forum/

THP is the forum I went to when I first started looking for pokers help online, so some of the early posts are quite comical :)

Glad I stuck to it, looks like I may have been a bit wavery at the start.

Later I just used it to post lol hands and stuff

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to H [Ah 3h]
: folds
V: raises $100 to $150
H: raises $350 to $500
: folds
: folds
: folds
: folds
V: calls $350
*** FLOP *** [9h Js Jh]
V: bets $350
H: raises $500 to $850
V: raises $500 to $1350
H: raises $500 to $1850
V: raises $500 to $2350
H: raises $2150 to $4500 and is all-in
V: folds
Uncalled bet ($2150) returned to H
H collected $5772 from pot

Here's one that caught my eye, games were good fun back then. (was always careful not to reveal my name when I was starting out, I don't know why)

lol, yeah this is one of the hands i remember and was just like WTF???

yeah i used to post there b4 coming to 2+2. i remember thinking you were god as all athe other posters were like 1/2 grinders and you were crushing 25/50 haha. i figured it must be you as i remember that miaow(you) was an aussie scrabble master that played high stakes. how many australians play high stakes poker and crush scrabble? 1 haha


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