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Daliman vs EC10: The Nit vs the Nose Daliman vs EC10: The Nit vs the Nose

04-01-2008 , 03:45 AM
sedatives?

i'd like to put down like 200 or 300 on dali at 130, any takers?
04-01-2008 , 04:03 AM
i want in on the fun. 1300 on ec10 vs someones 1k on dali.
04-01-2008 , 04:09 AM
you really should play till someone wins a set amount.. the way it is now if someone is up like 5k at 6500 hands they can just nit it up for the 1k hands and win the side bets.
04-01-2008 , 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bigballz
i want in on the fun. 1300 on ec10 vs someones 1k on dali.
ill put 1k on dali for your 1300 on ec10. quote to confirm.
04-01-2008 , 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ansky
you really should play till someone wins a set amount.. the way it is now if someone is up like 5k at 6500 hands they can just nit it up for the 1k hands and win the side bets.
Well, That's all part of the match, now, isn't it?

I'd hate to get stuck in some vicious circle of needing to win/lose 20 buyins or something and we keep bouncing back and forth and have to play like 40k hands to do it. Pretty sure Boosted and Jmans match ended with like an under 3 buyin difference after what, 30k hands?
04-01-2008 , 11:16 AM
i hadn't really thought about about what ansky said and now that i have i think it's kind of a big deal. if someone is up 5k over 5-6k hands they are going to play such an insanely low variance style that the last 1.5k-2.5k might as well not even happen.

some solutions i thought of (dali let me know if you're ok with them or throw in any suggestions of your own):

listed in descending order of what i'd prefer

1. play til someone is up X buyins (side bet can still be on with this).
2. play 10-20 with a smaller side bet instead (say, 10k)
3. if you really don't want to do 10-20, we could do the same conditions as we were going to but just a smaller side bet. the side bet could have a different format too; i.e. the loser has to send the total amount he lost to the winner as the side bet (if A loses 10k to B, A has to send another 10k), with a minimum of like $5k. that way there won't be too much incentive to nit it up towards the end of the match.
04-01-2008 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by EC10
3. if you really don't want to do 10-20...

...the loser has to send the total amount he lost to the winner as the side bet (if A loses 10k to B, A has to send another 10k)
Are you really this big an idiot?
04-01-2008 , 11:27 AM
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(if A loses 10k to B, A has to send another 10k)
Ah.
04-01-2008 , 11:28 AM
lol

i obviously realize it would double the stakes so i tried to put in a provision or something to make it more appealing to daliman

whatever lick my balls
04-01-2008 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by EC10
lol

yes, I'm really that big an idiot

whatever lick my balls
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04-01-2008 , 12:15 PM
this is gonna be sick...ill take EC10 at those odds

hope theres a good line offered at bodog...lol
04-01-2008 , 12:46 PM
EC10 is the nuts....imo
04-01-2008 , 01:29 PM
sweet sounds like this is never going to happen now.
04-01-2008 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by One1
sweet sounds like this is never going to happen now.
There's too much money riding on it now coming from every direction. Never underestimate the strength of social pressure.
04-01-2008 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by EC10
i hadn't really thought about about what ansky said and now that i have i think it's kind of a big deal. if someone is up 5k over 5-6k hands they are going to play such an insanely low variance style that the last 1.5k-2.5k might as well not even happen.

some solutions i thought of (dali let me know if you're ok with them or throw in any suggestions of your own):

listed in descending order of what i'd prefer

1. play til someone is up X buyins (side bet can still be on with this).
2. play 10-20 with a smaller side bet instead (say, 10k)
3. if you really don't want to do 10-20, we could do the same conditions as we were going to but just a smaller side bet. the side bet could have a different format too; i.e. the loser has to send the total amount he lost to the winner as the side bet (if A loses 10k to B, A has to send another 10k), with a minimum of like $5k. that way there won't be too much incentive to nit it up towards the end of the match.
1. As I stated before, depending on the # of buyins, this could give us a job for a couple of weeks of playing each other. Neither of us wants that. What would be a good # of buyins without it being a variance-fest or possible marathon? 10?
2. Might be ok, I'd have to think about it a bit more.
3. April fools, right?
04-01-2008 , 01:51 PM
can the loser get a monthlong ban too? just seems like an appropriate situation
04-01-2008 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by the_dal_kid
There's too much money riding on it now coming from every direction. Never underestimate the strength of social pressure.
EC10 and I are both holding out on playing untill we get a 10% commission on all bets made.
04-01-2008 , 01:57 PM
i very much doubt either dali or i will back out at this point so don't worry about the match not happening people.

dali, playing until someone is up 10 buyins (for #1) would be a good amount i think. aejones and brynn hit this fairly fast (less than 5k hands iirc) and they're both big nits hu. the more i think about it the more i think this is a far better option than just a set number of hands.

failing that, if #2 is cool with you it's cool with me.
04-01-2008 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by EC10
i very much doubt either dali or i will back out at this point so don't worry about the match not happening people.

dali, playing until someone is up 10 buyins (for #1) would be a good amount i think. aejones and brynn hit this fairly fast (less than 5k hands iirc) and they're both big nits hu. the more i think about it the more i think this is a far better option than just a set number of hands.

failing that, if #2 is cool with you it's cool with me.

Ok, 10 buyins is fine with me, unless someone happens to come up with a reason why it would be a horrible idea. Anything else on rules then?

EDIT: I'm assuming that would mean at least 10k up, not just opponent is 10k down, (lol_rakeaments)
04-01-2008 , 02:20 PM
04-01-2008 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Daliman
OK, so far as I know, here are the proposed rules. EC10 still has to approve/amend.

- 5/10 HU on Full Tilt
- 3 Tables
- play until someone is up 10 buyins
- 20k additional bet on side to player who wins most/loses least.
- Players cannot drop below 50BB's. If they do, other player sits out and player must reload to a full buyin. All tables will start with both players at a full buyin.
- If effective stacks get to over 300BB's on a table, either player can request to close that table and start a new one, and cannot be denied.
- No account switching or ghosting.
- A player quitting the entire match before someone is up 10k is done forfeits his 20k to the opposing player.

Anything else, EC?
these seem fine by me

i might be ready to start today, if not definitely ready t omorrow
04-01-2008 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by waydownlow
Looking to put $125 on EC10 v $100 on Dali, w escrow.
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04-01-2008 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by waydownlow
Looking to put $125 on EC10 v $100 on Dali, w escrow.
Ship me $130 on Stars (GogUMagog) and I'll send back $230 if EC10 wins, if you're interested. 1.3:1 seems to be the line now.
04-01-2008 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWorstPlayer
Ship me $130 on Stars (GogUMagog) and I'll send back $230 if EC10 wins, if you're interested. 1.3:1 seems to be the line now.
Can we do it on FTP? @Work right now I'll ship when I get out assuming they haven't started.
04-01-2008 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by waydownlow
Can we do it on FTP? @Work right now I'll ship when I get out assuming they haven't started.
Yes. Loki_In_Love (First Letter: N). If you have shipped before they start then bet is on. Otherwise, off.

      
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