Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
April **** THREAD April **** THREAD

04-11-2011 , 06:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Rivers
That's not a very good argument. It will never be the case that everyone stops talking to the police.
My point is that you can either expose yourself to a very small risk and be helpful, or you can basically be a dick and never say anything and make someone else's life way more difficult. It's pretty extreme selfishness and life nittery.
04-11-2011 , 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoahSD
This guy is operating under the assumption that you're guaranteed to end up in court. If a cop pulls you over because you were speeding or whatever and you just refuse to talk to him, he's almost definitely going to give you a ticket, and he's much more likely to look for reasons to search the car, arrest you, etc. both because they're humans and they get mad at people being douches to them and because it's totally reasonable for them to assume that you're hiding something if you won't talk to them. If you do talk to him, you very very often end up getting no ticket.

He's not operating under the assumption you'll always go to court when you talk to the police at all. The argument is that the risks of speaking to officers nearly always outweigh the benefits. The only assumption that he's operating on, which you seem to disagree with, is that it is very unlikely that you will talk a police officer out of giving you a ticket or charging you with a crime in a situation where the evidence, or lack thereof, will not exonerate you on its own merits.

During traffic stops, the police officer will ask you questions for several reasons. It's generally not to be provided with a reasonable excuse for whatever you've been pulled over for that will persuade him into not giving you a ticket, but instead to elicit verbal responses that can be recorded on the deposition line of the ticket as evidence for court purposes, to either assist in proving a charge, or to justify police action (e.g. probable cause for search).

Officers don't ask just any old questions during traffic stops. They often ask questions whose responses are intended to incriminate you, whether a traffic violation or a more serious crime is in question.

You could argue that because another reason behind some traffic stop interrogations is investigatory that you could try and explain why whatever you're doing that appears suspicious is actually innocent, but the professor explains exactly why this is a terrible idea.

(lay opinion)
04-11-2011 , 11:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPB383
Serious Question folks: Does anyone have any experience/knowledge of Bitcoins? I was looking into them and thinking of buying ~ 40-50k in Bitcoins. Worthwhile? A scam? etc etc.
It's hard to move that much money into it quickly. I tried to buy 10k in December (when they were trading at 1/3 of current rate) and it was difficult because even if you buy on the largest exchange mtgox, you will move the market like 20c. Either buy up real slow on the exchange or put a large order on bitcoin-otc and try to work a deal with someone reputable. There is a stars pro with a ton of posts on the bitcoin forums who might put in a good word for you.

There is a bitcoin poker room where micro stakes runs a bit (with terrible software obv), and the way the transactions work is super cool cause you can deposit to sportsbook/gambling/whatever site and then instantly withdrawl and put it on different site. It's ideal for borderline or outright illegal stuff. A few weeks back, someone reported successfully buying LSD from europe, as neither party can be caught when you are using an anonymous, irreversible, virtual cryptocurrency. The cool thing is that unlike neteller/paypal, this actually has a good chance of being immune to government interference because it is p2p, and a great deal of thought seems to have gone into network security.

Last edited by sethseth; 04-11-2011 at 11:22 PM.
04-11-2011 , 11:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sethseth
It's hard to move that much money into it quickly. I tried to buy 10k in December (when they were trading at 1/3 of current rate) and it was difficult because even if you buy on the largest exchange mtgox, you will move the market like 20c. Either buy up real slow on the exchange or put a large order on bitcoin-otc and try to work a deal with someone reputable. There is a stars pro with a ton of posts on the bitcoin forums who might vouch for you.

There is a bitcoin poker room where micro stakes runs a bit (with terrible software obv), and the way the transactions work is super cool cause you can deposit to sportsbook/gambling/whatever site and then instantly withdrawl and put it on different site. It's ideal for borderline or outright illegal stuff. A few weeks back, someone reported successfully buying LSD from europe, as neither party can be caught when you are using an anonymous, irreversible, virtual cryptocurrency. The cool thing is that unlike neteller/paypal, this actually has a good chance of being immune to government interference because it is p2p.
Thanks, I see a lot of potentially strong inventions/innovations in the bitcoin community. I'd assume the best way is to buy it from multiple exchanges before the line can shift. The only thing I'm worried about is how readily the currency can deflate.
04-12-2011 , 02:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ike
Agree with Roman, I don't see why being pulled over with cash would be a big deal. Did you flip out and tell silly lies or something?
nono nothing like that.. see i just left my house for a coffee couldnt find my house keys so just took it with me... but left license at home... obv it wasnt good but my license had a scofflaw from an old seatbelt violation that got lost in the mix.... he seen like a bulge in my pocket which was about 2k mostly hundreds and he asked wat was in my pocket... said money he says wow u have alot of money there... wat for.. im like not a lot about 2k meanwhile i have a 20k in my jacket pocket.... so that wasnt good... anyway it ended up getting squared away.. but they ripped my car apart.. breaking things and empty a cereal box out.

they also found a few roaches under the seat... were not too worried about it tho.... they did arrest me and booked me for the scofflaw... and counted the cash and wrote the amount down in a book... the cop then made me promise him i wont walk back to my car that they parked for me.. so i wouldnt have to pay for a tow.. i mean this was all after the fact they tore everything apart and realized my story of being disabled and now playing poker for a living was true they decided to go easy on me... oh and reason for stop was a faulty breaklite
04-12-2011 , 02:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sethseth
It's hard to move that much money into it quickly. I tried to buy 10k in December (when they were trading at 1/3 of current rate) and it was difficult because even if you buy on the largest exchange mtgox, you will move the market like 20c. Either buy up real slow on the exchange or put a large order on bitcoin-otc and try to work a deal with someone reputable. There is a stars pro with a ton of posts on the bitcoin forums who might put in a good word for you.

There is a bitcoin poker room where micro stakes runs a bit (with terrible software obv), and the way the transactions work is super cool cause you can deposit to sportsbook/gambling/whatever site and then instantly withdrawl and put it on different site. It's ideal for borderline or outright illegal stuff. A few weeks back, someone reported successfully buying LSD from europe, as neither party can be caught when you are using an anonymous, irreversible, virtual cryptocurrency. The cool thing is that unlike neteller/paypal, this actually has a good chance of being immune to government interference because it is p2p, and a great deal of thought seems to have gone into network security.
Wow. I had never heard of bitcoin until like an hour ago in this thread. It is really interesting and looks like it's possible it could be a big deal. Obv super high risk right now, though.

Would you recommend any sites with a bunch of info? This is one of those things that would be fun to gamble on, but I am afraid I will just never get around to it.

If nothing else, it is reminding me that I HAVE to put time into diversifying my investments. If the dollar collapsed tomorrow so would most of my wealth. It is such a pain in the ass managing finances as I don't haven anyone in the industry that I "know" I can trust to have my best interests in mind. I tend to put just enough time into it that I don't trust anyone, but still don't know anything/do anything myself.

Anyone else have this problem?
04-12-2011 , 02:43 AM
Thought of ZJ reading this from hearing jokes about him donating money to that organization that was researching ways to extend your life or something like that

anyhow, these are pretty interesting articles:
Anti-Aging Pill

Article on Telomeres - the link between stress and aging

And this seems cool, about to read - computers helping paralyzed people:
Scott Pelley Reports How Brain Computer Interface May Help The Paralyzed In The Future
04-12-2011 , 03:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sethseth
It's hard to move that much money into it quickly. I tried to buy 10k in December (when they were trading at 1/3 of current rate) and it was difficult because even if you buy on the largest exchange mtgox, you will move the market like 20c. Either buy up real slow on the exchange or put a large order on bitcoin-otc and try to work a deal with someone reputable. There is a stars pro with a ton of posts on the bitcoin forums who might put in a good word for you.

There is a bitcoin poker room where micro stakes runs a bit (with terrible software obv), and the way the transactions work is super cool cause you can deposit to sportsbook/gambling/whatever site and then instantly withdrawl and put it on different site. It's ideal for borderline or outright illegal stuff. A few weeks back, someone reported successfully buying LSD from europe, as neither party can be caught when you are using an anonymous, irreversible, virtual cryptocurrency. The cool thing is that unlike neteller/paypal, this actually has a good chance of being immune to government interference because it is p2p, and a great deal of thought seems to have gone into network security.
Wasn't very interested till you mentioned the LSD. Signing up now. jk. Maybe.
04-12-2011 , 05:44 AM
man beats nature

Netherlands Sunless farming
04-12-2011 , 08:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PBJaxx
Wow. I had never heard of bitcoin until like an hour ago in this thread. It is really interesting and looks like it's possible it could be a big deal. Obv super high risk right now, though.

Would you recommend any sites with a bunch of info? This is one of those things that would be fun to gamble on, but I am afraid I will just never get around to it.

If nothing else, it is reminding me that I HAVE to put time into diversifying my investments. If the dollar collapsed tomorrow so would most of my wealth. It is such a pain in the ass managing finances as I don't haven anyone in the industry that I "know" I can trust to have my best interests in mind. I tend to put just enough time into it that I don't trust anyone, but still don't know anything/do anything myself.

Anyone else have this problem?
http://www.bitcoin.org/
The Wiki/Help was useful.
However they have an IRC which is filled with knowledgeable (biased of course) who have been useful for learning.
There's a lot of entrepreneurial people now who are looking into establishing new trade networks, Bitcoin banks and other projects that may be good in investing in before they take off.
04-12-2011 , 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Syous
Thought of ZJ reading this from hearing jokes about him donating money to that organization that was researching ways to extend your life or something like that

anyhow, these are pretty interesting articles:
Anti-Aging Pill

Article on Telomeres - the link between stress and aging

And this seems cool, about to read - computers helping paralyzed people:
Scott Pelley Reports How Brain Computer Interface May Help The Paralyzed In The Future
not sure if it got mentioned back when ZJ was talking about this stuff but "the transcendent man" is an awesome documentary about anti-aging technology etc.
04-12-2011 , 01:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PBJaxx
If nothing else, it is reminding me that I HAVE to put time into diversifying my investments. If the dollar collapsed tomorrow so would most of my wealth. It is such a pain in the ass managing finances as I don't haven anyone in the industry that I "know" I can trust to have my best interests in mind. I tend to put just enough time into it that I don't trust anyone, but still don't know anything/do anything myself.

Anyone else have this problem?
how diversified are you trying to be, i mean if you just keep your non poker money in balanced stocks (with a reasonable amount of non domestic) and maybe some bonds and maybe 5% gold if you are worried, what other diversification options do you even have that don't require a significant time investment or have other issues?

if its genuinely stressing you out i guess you could put some serious thought into buying a house to live in.

i guess you could look into being invested in small businesses etc but you start looking at much larger time investment and requiring a new set of skills.
04-12-2011 , 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NLSoldier
not sure if it got mentioned back when ZJ was talking about this stuff but "the transcendent man" is an awesome documentary about anti-aging technology etc.
+1 to Transcendent Man being fantastic
04-12-2011 , 02:22 PM
Saw one of the pre-screenings of Transcendent Man in LA that also had a Q+A from Kurzweil + director (no one asked the director a single question - lol).

Was a pretty cool experience. A few famous people there.

Seen the movie twice now (we have a movie night in Vegas, and I chose it when it was my turn to show a movie to the group).



I think it's a great introduction to Kurzweil and his beliefs. Most people don't want to read a 600 page book, so a nice ~90 minute movie with some colorful people, interesting life perspectives, and two absolutely amazing quotes is definitely worth seeing.

I generally think this is the modern equivalent of is there a heaven / hell? What I mean is: the answer to this question (or the question of is RK right?) has such a profound implication on what your life will be in the future and how you should live your life today, that I think it's crazy to not look into this stuff.

If you enjoy reading, and can deal with very technical sciency jargon (to be honest, I have trouble going through this stuff at a reasonable pace), I highly recommend his book The Singularity is Near. It's ~ 600 pages of scientific data, charts, explanations, predictions, etc. It uses lots of data from the present and past to extrapolate for the future. He also talks a lot about forms of future technology (i.e. 3d silicon chips) to explain how it's possible for the exponential trends to continue.
04-12-2011 , 04:08 PM
From the twitter account behind the documentary:

Quote:
TranscendentMan TRANSCENDENT MAN
Ray Kurzweil + Stephen Colbert = The most interesting Colbert Report ever! TONIGHT on Comedy Central after The Daily Show.
04-12-2011 , 05:09 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Transcendant Man is complete nonsense?

edit: I should clarify, Kurzweil is extremely intelligent, and has interesting ideas but I think he makes a number of highly speculative unlikely predictions. Human history is full of intelligent people who have been embarrassingly at bad future projections.

Last edited by Eagles; 04-12-2011 at 05:27 PM.
04-12-2011 , 06:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagles
Am I the only one who thinks Transcendant Man is complete nonsense?
Haven't seen it. Would need to know the core arguments to be able to say. Maybe I'll watch it if they have it on Netflix streaming.
04-12-2011 , 06:24 PM
not alone at all. his conclusions are, while interesting, highly controversial afaik
04-12-2011 , 06:26 PM
i remember the SMP forum having a thread or 2 about Kurzweil if u want to search that
04-12-2011 , 07:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexeimartov
how diversified are you trying to be, i mean if you just keep your non poker money in balanced stocks (with a reasonable amount of non domestic) and maybe some bonds and maybe 5% gold if you are worried, what other diversification options do you even have that don't require a significant time investment or have other issues?

if its genuinely stressing you out i guess you could put some serious thought into buying a house to live in.

i guess you could look into being invested in small businesses etc but you start looking at much larger time investment and requiring a new set of skills.
Thanks for the advice. Yeah, this is basically what I need to do. I actually do own a house that I live in with a good amount of equity (put a fair amount down), and I own a rental property (former residence) that I don't have much equity in.

I would like to have ~5% in gold/silver for sure. Regarding the rest of my portfolio (majority of which is in a SEP IRA which I max out each year), I recently moved it to a money market fund for "holding" while I figure out where to invest it. That is where I end up being slow/dumb as I don't take the time to figure out what kind of allocations I should have, etc. I'll probably just end up talking to a friend of mine who has hobbied in finance for years.

It's got to be better than having a pretty large % of my net worth basically in USD. :-P
04-12-2011 , 11:30 PM
I used a classic Degen diversification tactic to hedge the dollar.

Converted 90% of my pokerstars account to euro! Good echange rate with no fee and it's 2 clicks back to USD if the mood strikes me.
04-13-2011 , 12:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pleasecbetme
I used a classic Degen diversification tactic to hedge the dollar.

Converted 90% of my pokerstars account to euro! Good echange rate with no fee and it's 2 clicks back to USD if the mood strikes me.
Quote:
Q May I use PokerStars for Currency Speculation purposes?
A No. PokerStars' multi-currency features are intended to be used for playing the games and not for any other purpose. The use of PokerStars' multi-currency features for currency speculation is prohibited by our Terms of Service.

If PokerStars has reasonable grounds to suspect that currency conversion transactions are being made for purposes other than play, we reserve the right to retroactively apply the full 1% (one percent) margin to the exchange rate, and take any other appropriate measure, which may include confiscation of funds and/or closing the player’s account with PokerStars.
.
04-13-2011 , 01:16 AM
vanessa is 2nd in chips in the mohegan NAPT going into the FT (same one she took down last year). gogogo you sicko
04-13-2011 , 02:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Stevenson
vanessa is 2nd in chips in the mohegan NAPT going into the FT (same one she took down last year). gogogo you sicko
Wow. She is absolutely ridiculous.
04-13-2011 , 02:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PBJaxx
Wow. She is absolutely ridiculous.
lucky dollar imo

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...kiest-1014249/

      
m