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09-12-2011, 07:18 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Miami
Posts: 7,385
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
5bb push/fold games are sick .
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09-12-2011, 07:45 PM
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#17
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newbie
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Denmark
Posts: 22
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
LMAO @Dooshcom
I really hope you guys get your money back!
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09-12-2011, 08:46 PM
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#18
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grinder
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London, England
Posts: 416
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
these games are so much fun
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09-12-2011, 08:58 PM
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#19
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 4,008
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
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He was down about 200-300k in the first few days. That convinced most regulars to keep playing him despite his play wasn't that bad. Actually he was up EV-wise according to my Holdem Manager
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sounds fun
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09-12-2011, 09:32 PM
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#20
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Interesting comments go here.
Posts: 4,033
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
Thanks for posting this.
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09-12-2011, 09:57 PM
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#21
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adept
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 914
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
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09-12-2011, 10:05 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: attempting to troll skillgambler
Posts: 9,167
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
quite the same jama, hope you get as many of the funds back as possible, it's sad to see some random high stakes collusion going on constantly
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09-12-2011, 10:51 PM
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#23
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banned
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: My logic is undeniable
Posts: 3,070
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
its problem
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09-12-2011, 11:21 PM
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#24
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,000
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
thanks for posting, good luck getting a fair resolution
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09-13-2011, 01:56 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,081
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
I bet 888 does nothing
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09-13-2011, 03:09 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 699
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
what a disgrace
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09-13-2011, 03:16 AM
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#27
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grinder
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Toronto, Canaduh!
Posts: 450
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
Quote:
Originally Posted by School47
Crazy russians guys everythere!!!
P.S. I hope, feruel and other regs will return his money from bad guys
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Kinda hard to miss the Russian Federation with close to 142 million people.
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09-13-2011, 03:52 AM
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adept
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Windsor, ON
Posts: 831
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
Quote:
Originally Posted by feruell
Sincerely,
needAAAA,
thrcnebeonly1,
algohr,
jnevanli,
poolfc1,
hhhhhhhhhepp,
antero666,
d144n1
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A+++ work on the investigation/report. I hope you all get your money back.
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09-13-2011, 03:55 AM
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#29
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grinder
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Posts: 407
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
Way to give UK poker bad name... Sigh gl all recovering funds.
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09-13-2011, 07:30 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,324
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re: Allegations that Darren Woods also known as Dooshcom on 888 poker is a cheater and a scammer
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Originally Posted by feruell
Appendix with the hands
$500/$1000 No Limit Holdem
3 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
BTN benkaremail ( $5,000)
SB dooshcom ( $9,997)
BB feruell ( $18,985)
Pre-Flop: ( $1,500, 3 players) feruell is BB K  J
benkaremail raises to $2,000, dooshcom goes all-in $9,997, feruell goes all-in $18,985, benkaremail calls $3,000
Flop: A  K  2  ( $33,982, 3 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: Q  ( $33,982, 3 players, 2 all-in)
River: Q  ( $33,982, 3 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $33,982
dooshcom shows
7  5 
feruell shows
K  J 
benkaremail shows
6  8
feruell wins $33,979 (net +$14,994)
dooshcom lost $9,997
benkaremail lost $5,000
Impossible open raise by benkaremail and reraise by dooshcom.Double misclick is very unlikely. If they know each other cards both plays make sense.
$500/$1000 No Limit Holdem
3 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
BTN benkaremail ( $17,991)
SB feruell ( $8,997)
BB dooshcom ( $5,000)
Pre-Flop: ( $1,500, 3 players) feruell is SB A  A
benkaremail goes all-in $17,991, feruell calls $8,497, dooshcom calls $4,000
Flop: Q  7  2  ( $31,988, 3 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: 3  ( $31,988, 3 players, 1 all-in)
River: 8  ( $31,988, 3 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $31,988
benkaremail shows
7  9 
feruell shows
A  A 
dooshcom shows
8  10
feruell wins $22,991 (net +$13,994)
benkaremail collects $8,994 (net -$8,997)
dooshcom lost $5,000
Bad open push by benkaremail (unless he has a partner on BB) and bad overcall by dooshom (unless he knows that button has only 97o).
$500/$1000 No Limit Holdem
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
CO needAAAA ( $21,985)
BTN DooshCom ( $14,991)
SB feruell ( $22,982)
BB liverfc123 ( $5,000)
Pre-Flop: ( $1,500, 4 players) feruell is SB 7  A
1 fold, DooshCom raises to $2,000, feruell goes all-in $22,982, liverfc123 goes all-in $4,000, DooshCom folds
Flop: 6  2  8  ( $12,000, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: 5  ( $12,000, 2 players, 2 all-in)
River: A  ( $12,000, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $12,000
feruell shows
7  A 
liverfc123 shows
10  4 
feruell wins $29,979 (net +$6,997)
DooshCom lost $2,000
liverfc123 lost $5,000
A call with T4o??? Makes sense only if you know that your partner has nothing and is going to fold. So you have 3.5k of dead money in the pot and that makes the odds to call much better.
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I don't get it. Are they colluding to light as much money on fire as fast as possible? Even if they're sharing hole cards all of these plays just seem awful.
I'm not saying there isn't something sketchy going on here. Everything else you describe seems pretty weird. But they're just playing terribly in the hands you posted.
For instance, the T4o call:
He's getting 2 : 1 if he knows the other guy is folding.
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
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| t4o | 29.58% | 1,804,410,096 | 99,065,148 | | 25% | 70.42% | 4,363,557,396 | 99,065,148 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
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| t4o | 31.64% | 2,725,607,784 | 140,251,488 | | 35% | 68.36% | 5,969,629,368 | 140,251,488 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
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| t4o | 33.11% | 3,587,147,916 | 214,970,904 | | 44% | 66.89% | 7,355,254,044 | 214,970,904 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
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| t4o | 33.15% | 193,125 | 11,556 | | 38% | 66.85% | 395,319 | 11,556 |
He'd need to think you were shoving 44% over doosh's open for the T4o call to be good. It can get down to 38% if we assume doosh is folding a2o, which is about the best blockers he could have and remotely consider folding, but of course if their team has you on shoving 38%, he'll just call you with A2o instead of letting his teammate with T4o try to chase you down.
Last edited by ike; 09-13-2011 at 07:38 AM.
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