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Old 09-11-2008, 02:21 PM   #91
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Re: Is it all about the money?

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starving people in africa would love to be homeless on the street in nyc as well.

that doesnt mean that people shouldnt strive for more.
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Old 09-11-2008, 02:23 PM   #92
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whats worse is hearing people complain about their normal boring jobs. u can be anything u want in life. u chose ur crap job, u could quit tomorrow and do anything u want but u dont. so shut up and stop complaining. and besides that there are millions who have it worse than u. nothin grinds my gears more than people who are ***** ungrateful about life
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Old 09-11-2008, 02:30 PM   #93
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"even the smartest person in the world has a vanishingly small chance of making a paradigm-shifting discovery within their lifetime."

i dunno about "making a paradigm-shifting discovery,"... but let's change that to a Really Important Contribution and in fact many people in the world have the Chance to do that. only most people are very very lazy and apparently content to play poker, or even fighting themselves to make themselves content to just play poker. and then what absolutely is baffling is when people transition from poker they move into finance??
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there is no greater anathema to happiness and contentment than asking yourself where they come from. thinking about thinking, or analytical thinking generally, activates associational networks that are detached from emotional experience. the most effective way of bringing about a contented state is to suspend thoughtful judgement and self-reflection. accept the ephemeral desires, goals, and rules of your environment without asking unproductive and meaningless questions like, "why do i care about this?" or "how important is what i'm doing?" or "have i accomplished anything?"

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i've told you this before but you didnt listen to me: you cant just decide youre going to discover something. science progresses through 'conjectures and refutations', or guesswork. you have to endure at least 6-8 years of arduous study before you can even participate in the guessing game of scientific progress. some people guess better than others but the edges are tiny. even the smartest person in the world has a vanishingly small chance of making a paradigm-shifting discovery within their lifetime.

how satisfying you find any pursuit or accomplishment depends on how you frame it mentally. the problem is with the cognitive strategies and 'frames' you've selected, not the goals you've pursued.
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Old 09-11-2008, 02:34 PM   #95
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I think if every poster in this thread was 40+ then your sentiments might hold a little worth..chill out guys were really lucky (most of you way more so than me) to be where we are and have a toooon of time to figure out what the hell we wanna do with our lives..
really hard to see it this way sometimes, even though its the truth
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Old 09-11-2008, 02:35 PM   #96
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VanVeen seriously needs his own forum

Also this has nobel prize written all over it...

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Old 09-11-2008, 02:35 PM   #97
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the problem for most of you seems to be that you do not know what makes you happy to begin with. If you did know what makes you happy, you would use the money and extra time you have to do it. Spend time with a girlfriend, travel, experience different cultures, challenge yourself to something new... you have the time and freedom most people dream of, so if you cannot manage to be happy then that is a failure in and of itself.
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I'm in the camp of 'poker is pretty cool and still fun a lot of the time (maybe not as often as it used to be), maybe I want to do something else more productive to society down the road, but I also realize how fortunate a situation I'm in and have no regrets.' I think the relative happiness stuff is all very real, but I also know that things are great right now and will continue to always be at least good if I stay with poker. I have some interest in finance but just can't see myself going from a life of freedom to grinding 80 hours a week in the office for significantly less money to start. Luckily, like many of you, I'm young and have lots of time to figure this all out, but right now, poker does seem like a pretty sweet way to make a living.
I too share a similar opinion, though I'm spending a little more time nowadays looking for my 'out'. The good news is I won't ever have to settle for a job or career that isn't awesome since poker will always be a great option for making a livable income.
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VanVeen seriously needs his own forum

Also this has nobel prize written all over it...

Kurosh,

The size of your wallet has an inverse relationship with the size of your woman. I hope that answered your question.
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there is no greater anathema to happiness and contentment than asking yourself where they come from. thinking about thinking, or analytical thinking generally, activates associational networks that are detached from emotional experience. the most effective way of bringing about a contented state is to suspend thoughtful judgement and self-reflection. accept the ephemeral desires, goals, and rules of your environment without asking unproductive and meaningless questions like, "why do i care about this?" or "how important is what i'm doing?" or "have i accomplished anything?"

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i've told you this before but you didnt listen to me: you cant just decide youre going to discover something. science progresses through 'conjectures and refutations', or guesswork. you have to endure at least 6-8 years of arduous study before you can even participate in the guessing game of scientific progress. some people guess better than others but the edges are tiny. even the smartest person in the world has a vanishingly small chance of making a paradigm-shifting discovery within their lifetime.

how satisfying you find any pursuit or accomplishment depends on how you frame it mentally. the problem is with the cognitive strategies and 'frames' you've selected, not the goals you've pursued.
Do you support the preachings of Eckhart Tolle? He has a rather convincing and popular book titled "The Power of Now."
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There are two kinds of sufferers in this world: those who suffer from a lack of life and those who suffer from an overabundance of life. I've always found myself in the second category. When you come to think of it, almost all human behavior and activity is not essentially any different from animal behavior. The most advanced technologies and craftsmanship bring us, at best, up to the super-chimpanzee level. Actually, the gap between, say, Plato or Nietzsche and the average human is greater than the gap between that chimpanzee and the average human. The realm of the real spirit, the true artist, the saint, the philosopher, is rarely achieved.

Why so few? Why is world history and evolution not stories of progress but rather this endless and futile addition of zeroes. No greater values have developed. Hell, the Greeks 3,000 years ago were just as advanced as we are. So what are these barriers that keep people from reaching anywhere near their real potential? The answer to that can be found in another question, and that's this: Which is the most universal human characteristic - fear or laziness?

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his posts are always so wise.
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There are two kinds of sufferers in this world: those who suffer from a lack of life and those who suffer from an overabundance of life. I've always found myself in the second category. When you come to think of it, almost all human behavior and activity is not essentially any different from animal behavior. The most advanced technologies and craftsmanship bring us, at best, up to the super-chimpanzee level. Actually, the gap between, say, Plato or Nietzsche and the average human is greater than the gap between that chimpanzee and the average human. The realm of the real spirit, the true artist, the saint, the philosopher, is rarely achieved.

Why so few? Why is world history and evolution not stories of progress but rather this endless and futile addition of zeroes. No greater values have developed. Hell, the Greeks 3,000 years ago were just as advanced as we are. So what are these barriers that keep people from reaching anywhere near their real potential? The answer to that can be found in another question, and that's this: Which is the most universal human characteristic - fear or laziness?

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Old 09-11-2008, 03:42 PM   #105
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So many of you are students or very young and haven't had to work a 40 hour week at a job you hate. I am slightly older (27) and have just quit my job of 3 years that had a 45 min to 1hr commute both ways to play poker and I cannot begin to tell you how happy it has made me. The money is nice, and allows me to do more things like travel or go out with my wife or friends more but the main thing is the time. I can do whatever I want whenever I want. I am no longer scrambling to get errands done after work. I can go see a movie at noon, I can take a 3 pm fencing class, I can sit around when no one else is home and play video games, I can book a cheap trip to vegas for a monday-thursday if I want. I can do my goddamn laundry during the day when the laundry isn't being used!

All of these things add up to a much more enjoyable life. So no, its not ALL about the money but for me it sure as hell is about the time and freedom.
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