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Old 03-27-2017, 02:56 AM   #1
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AA Line Check

Prob a standard river fold, not sure about turn. There's probably a case for a tight turn fold (?) although not sure. Thoughts on all streets appreciated.

8 handed 10/20 live game. LP ($5K) limps, BTN ($5K) raises to $60, folds to me in BB ($2K). I raise to $200, both call. BTN is a tough reg capable of making moves. He should view me as a good/tight player. I have Ac

Flop JcTc6s. I bet $400, LP folds, BTN thinks for ten secs, asks to spread the pot, thinks for another ten seconds and calls. Turn 6c. I check, he bets $400. I call (?). River 9s. I check, he bets $700, I fold.

I've played a lot with BTN (though not necessarily hands against him) and he should know that my range here is QQ+. I feel like if he floated the flop to try and rep the flush, that he would bet bigger on the turn. He knows I can fold QQ-AA here. Maybe he flats TT/JJ on the flop IP. Anyway, with his sizing, I felt like he was trying to milk me. When he fires the turn in this spot, he's pretty much always betting the river too so maybe.. I could have found a turn fold? Thoughts?
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Old 03-27-2017, 01:13 PM   #2
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Re: AA Line Check

That's tough, getting 3.6/1 on the call. Only got to be right a little of a third of the time. c/c turn is fine and reevaluating, or fold is also ok I think, if u know he is going to fire again on river. If you are calling turn though, u probably have to call any river. I would probably fold turn. That flop and turn hits is range more than ur AA
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Old 03-28-2017, 03:22 PM   #3
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Re: AA Line Check

the preflop raise size is entirely too small.

350 pre, 450-500 on the flop and dump it in on the turn. AA with 100bb stack is trivial.

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Old 03-29-2017, 01:51 PM   #4
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Re: AA Line Check

if you BB 3bet range vs BTN is only QQ+, then fix your preflop 3bet strategy.
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Old 04-03-2017, 04:46 PM   #5
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Re: AA Line Check

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Prob a standard river fold, not sure about turn. There's probably a case for a tight turn fold (?) although not sure. Thoughts on all streets appreciated.

8 handed 10/20 live game. LP ($5K) limps, BTN ($5K) raises to $60, folds to me in BB ($2K). I raise to $200, both call. BTN is a tough reg capable of making moves. He should view me as a good/tight player. I have Ac

Flop JcTc6s. I bet $400, LP folds, BTN thinks for ten secs, asks to spread the pot, thinks for another ten seconds and calls. Turn 6c. I check, he bets $400. I call (?). River 9s. I check, he bets $700, I fold.

I've played a lot with BTN (though not necessarily hands against him) and he should know that my range here is QQ+. I feel like if he floated the flop to try and rep the flush, that he would bet bigger on the turn. He knows I can fold QQ-AA here. Maybe he flats TT/JJ on the flop IP. Anyway, with his sizing, I felt like he was trying to milk me. When he fires the turn in this spot, he's pretty much always betting the river too so maybe.. I could have found a turn fold? Thoughts?
He certainly played it like two pairs or a set. IMO he is very strong on the flop, either KQ that is going to bust or a set of some kind. The small bet on the turn is suspicious af.
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Old 04-10-2017, 04:53 PM   #6
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Re: AA Line Check

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He certainly played it like two pairs or a set. IMO he is very strong on the flop, either KQ that is going to bust or a set of some kind. The small bet on the turn is suspicious af.
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Old 05-24-2017, 06:51 PM   #7
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Re: AA Line Check

To me it seems his range is very strong especially with his antics on the flop
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Old 06-03-2017, 02:33 PM   #8
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Re: AA Line Check

I think he's interested in the flop because he has a draw. (ask to spread the pot to see the calling pot odds) . turn completes the flush. it does not freeze him. he bets small.
Consider fold right here. (me being logical now.)
AA might be too good to fold. So call one more street is also fine . river 700 to win 2100. 1 to 3 underdog. consider also he might be bluffing. is he capable to bluff like this? after all your card is faced up to him. (probably I would call if I were on the table) . my hand can still improve with another A on the river. river completes a straight draw. we didn't improve. he continues betting . fold is fine.
or should we bet 400 instead as a block bet? see if he raises. if he does, we fold.


btw , the flop should bet the pot 600+ . bet if he has a KQ combo draw he'd still draw.
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Old 06-12-2017, 12:36 AM   #9
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Re: AA Line Check

Why are you folding 2 pair on that board? You didn't get value out of your hand either. You should be bet/bet/betting this flop or checking the river to get a check/raise in.
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Old 06-13-2017, 07:52 PM   #10
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Re: AA Line Check

Raise preflop way too low, and i would be folding either on the turn or river here depending of vilain, not enough info. With that bet on the turn he could either have kq and completed a straight or have the flush. A 6 wouldn't be in his range here and he knows you play tight.
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Old 06-18-2017, 02:47 AM   #11
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Re: AA Line Check

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the preflop raise size is entirely too small.

350 pre, 450-500 on the flop and dump it in on the turn. AA with 100bb stack is trivial.
No.

As played, must make crying call river. Villain could easily be value betting with worse. Why don't people ever fold AA in this spot vs me smfh.
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:02 PM   #12
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Re: AA Line Check

Maybe im trash but isnt turn a bet?
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:30 PM   #13
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the preflop raise size is entirely too small.

350 pre, 450-500 on the flop and dump it in on the turn. AA with 100bb stack is trivial.
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