500-1000 hand - Page 3 - High Stakes Poker Pot Limit and No Limit

Nirwanda · 07-01-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle

My personal call range (if I was rolled for the game) would be like 88+ and A10s+. Just asking the guys who said 44+ why they wouldn't call with 22 or 33.

lol

Andrew Boccia · 07-01-2012, 08:32 PM

99 AQo AJs

don't get leveled.

Extreme Ways · 07-02-2012, 04:40 AM

this actually happened to me today, villain had ak, I called A10s

iTzLifestyle · 07-02-2012, 07:51 AM

How many hands does 44 dominate?? 3 I can think of and how many times does he show up with them in this situation? If you wanna gamble might as well call with 22+ and hope your only dodging six cards.

Hoopman20 · 07-02-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle

How many hands does 44 dominate?? 3 I can think of and how many times does he show up with them in this situation? If you wanna gamble might as well call with 22+ and hope your only dodging six cards.

I like your commitment and persistence to try and convince people 22 and 44 have almost the exact same equity against a wide range. I think you are just a few more posts away from convincing everyone 22 is +ev. Keep at it until you drive the point home.

iTzLifestyle · 07-02-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopman20

I like your commitment and persistence to try and convince people 22 and 44 have almost the exact same equity against a wide range. I think you are just a few more posts away from convincing everyone 22 is +ev. Keep at it until you drive the point home.

I posted above I wouldn't call with 22 or 44. I just really don't see why some people would call with 44 and not 22. A pair is a pair and pairs are tough to make heads up!

Hoopman20 · 07-02-2012, 04:00 PM

so you wouldn't care whether you had AA or 22 because a pair is a pair? From my experience AA tends to have better preflop equity than 22 against every range I have ever been up against. I think it's because an ace is the highest ranked card in the deck so having two of them makes a higher pair than any other pair you can get.

It's probably unproven theory, but this has led me to believe that if AA is better than 22 because it is a higher pair, maybe higher pairs are better than lower pairs in general. Because 44 is a higher pair than 22, it would fall into the "better than 22" category.

Now you have come a long with your, "pairs are hard to get" theory and totally debunked everything I believed up to this point so I have to review my position on pairs.

CompleteDonk · 07-02-2012, 06:24 PM

No way in hell I'm folding 88 here.

sauce123 · 07-03-2012, 09:33 PM

mb 66+, ATs+, AJo or something

super_shark · 07-05-2012, 02:01 AM

ya 66+, A9+ imo

Ssslipnssslide · 07-05-2012, 01:07 PM

lol @ if 44 why not 22?

Obv the domination people are referring to is not just the obvious 44>33>22.
It's more about 44>[A-4],[3-4]. So, 42*6=252 more combos of hands we dominate than 22. Might not be exactly right but w/e.

I think I just got leveled into seriously answering a rhetorical question =(

CompleteDonk · 07-05-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sauce123

mb 66+, ATs+, AJo or something

sup girl? you lookin real cute...

MATT111 · 07-05-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackal69

if you mean whats the correct range then this is still pretty tight - he probably never open shoves 88-AA or big aces and probably does shove like 56s (or even 32s) for sheer fun, in which case its more like any ace, 44+, K7s+, Q8s+, J9s+, K8o+ QTo+, JTo or something like that depending on how much trash you give him. Now just factor in risk of ruin depending on how big a nit/how underrolled you are ;-)

You dont think he ships 22/33?

yocrackattack · 07-07-2012, 01:32 PM

Can't believe nobody's said it yet:

Ziig is a ****in' PIMP! Love it

slowlane123 · 07-08-2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by yocrackattack

Can't believe nobody's said it yet:

Ziig is a ****in' PIMP! Love it

Honestly, I read this OP and got goosebumps. So fkn awesome.