i dont see how we can fold here

JT is foldable but not AQ: u beat Ax, KK, QQ, JT

1) Villains line makes no sense. The way hero is betting, villian can expect to have another bet made otr if he flats turn. Why would he risk hero folding if hero has AJ/A10 and villain has AK?

2) If Villain has AK, I think he a) 3bets pre & b) either flats or value raises ott with the intention of raising/shoving river. Due to turn shove combined with pre flop flat I think AK can be ruled out.

3) The way hand is played Im not good enough to fold here, nor am I convinced its correct to fold. Thats taking into account stack sizes but even if deeper I dont see a fold on the turn very often if ever.

To summarise- Call. He can concievably have far worse than you. Button calling range is bigger pre flop. Could have AJ/A10, even a suited J10 imo as often as he has AK. In fact I'd probably give him the case AQ before Id give him AK. Call happily. Sick beat if wrong.

Call ... too many reasons to explain, just do it and fist pump.

r people even folding queens full here??? i think his range is weighted towards JT/AJ/AT from description and action especially pre and overbetting turn.

Question to OP:

Do you and Villain still both play at that game (or maybe at 5 10 in the same casino)? If yea, do you still believe he had AK that hand based on the hands he had played against others since then?

this looks a lot more like JT or a slow played kk qq than ak. with top boat he is scared of no rivers. call

The stakes here are way above what I play but it is obviously an interesting hand. What I don't understand is how this can be described as a "fist pump" call when it is surely more of a bluff catcher?
Hero has been playing very tight and has opened UTG which must limit his range. The flop seems to hit his limited range pretty hard but I imagine that villain calls the c bet with any ace, queen, gutshot and a good number of pocket pairs.
My question is how likely is it that villain bluffs when the King comes on the turn? From his perspective he could be trying to bluff against the nuts if Hero has AK and there are obviously a number of full houses that he has little reason to think that Hero will fold (particularly if calling with AQ is as obvious to many players as posters on here are suggesting). Surely the King combined with the flop cards hits Hero's hand range so hard that it is a difficult spot to bluff against a good sized turn continuation bet? Is this kind of move common at high stakes?
I can see that AQ is a hand that might have to be called as a bluff catcher but are there any weaker hands that the advocates of calling would continue with (eg KK, KQ, AJ, J10)? Sorry if the answer to this is obvious but it is really interesting to get some insight into how players think at these levels.

So much this:

"Haha sick group level. This is not a decision."

Anything else is mere mental masturbation.

I say call. Being an older live cash player, there's no way villain is shoving with the nuts. He will try to extract as much as possible. Older players live tend to think Asians are aggrO so they aren't putting the hero on AQ. Villain might have J10 here.

I want to know if OP would fold here in his normal games. Probably not. You should never play when the stakes impacts your decision.

lol. why is this thread so long?

Because there are three combos of AK which Villain can origami fold into a Hero shafting d1ldo.
Unlikely.
But possible.
But mainly unlikely.

I tend to think the guy had J-10, but how many times in your career have you had AK in hero's spot.. bet and some guy massively over shoves with worse. It doesn't really happen. How many times have you had a monster like AQ and you get overshoved on and your thinking **** **** **** and call and sure as **** the guy has AK. The latter happens much more then the former.

Snap call. Only AK and AA beat you. If your gonna fold then fold AQ pre.

AA doesn't beat him ducy but yeah I probably call and puke if he flips AK, it would be such a bad way to play the immortal nuts unless he put you on exactly AQ I think I call and say nice hand if he actually shows up with it

It would actually be a pretty cool play if he's good enough to level you into calling by shoving there with the nuts but I just don't believe it, he has to be either really really good or really really bad to show AK here and from your description he's probably somewhere in the middle of the two

I was Villain in this hand. Bluffed with 55 :-)

Im calling this every time considering these circumstances. If he has it then your just going to have to pay him off. That is the game of poker. If your folding this God only knows about the other Nit folds that you are making.

Snap call.

Why play AQ utg if you wouldn't want to get it in with that board?

+1

If you cant snap this youre playing about 2 levels higher than you should be. Villain probably knew this which is why he bluffed you with wayy worse than j10.

Never ever folding. If he has AK GFY.

OP obviously not rolled for these types of stakes, this is literally the easiest fistpump shove vs said villian. Lol at the nits in here laying down AQ in that spot

yep