6 handed 10/20 with a 40 straddle a few months ago in san diego.

I have ~$4800, Villain covers.

So far I have seen villain raise a few draw heavy flops and one really dry flop, of which it never went to showdown. He isn't terribly good, but not a drooler either.

So its 10/20/40, folded to me with QJ OTB. I raise to $150, BB calls, Straddle(villain) Calls.

Pot ~$460
Flop: K74
BB checks, Villain checks, I bet $360, BB folds, Villain calls.

Pot ~$1180
Turn: K74T
Villain Checks, I bet $980, Villain C/R to $2700. I have about $1600 on top of that.

Shove, if he has the nut flush you got coolered. Always shove.

This is just one of those spots where you gotta be a livepro and figure out what kinda player he is. Against some people this is always a fold, against some, very easy allin.

are you serious?

btw pal or oceans?

I folded 2nd nut flush one time where I had 2nd and 3d card, to a big raise , and got shown 8 high flush. Never again

At oceans...

But the only issue I have here is that this game, on this session, wasn't running with a straddle. This was a rare straddle, so this game so far had been playing much much smaller.

Basically this was by far the largest pot of the night.

you should win the largest pot of the night then.

God damn it, put these kind of posts in BBV!

some truth in this but I think given the situation meaning the straddle if he has it it's a huge cooler.

OK, I mean I do agree that it could be a huge cooler but it is possibly a fold vs some people live whereas it would never be a fold online.

In live poker using effective stack size as a reason to stack off when you're 250bb deep in a game isn't sound. The idea of effective stack size is much less relevant bc it often times isn't that relevant to the fish. Online every pot is raised pf, 3b and 4b a ton as well, stacks are flying around a lot and the fish see this and just see it as the way they have to play as well. They aren't thinking about effective stack sizes, they just see people slinging around money with any TP and they start doing the same.

Live however fish just see things in terms of money because they have to pull actual cash out and buy chips. Online the money just feels less real than live imo. If you're playing 10/20nl live $1000 is a big bet to most people. If a game is playing slow and not many big pots are being played then when someone bets $1000 in a game like this it is going to be seen as a huuuuuuge bet. Now imagine a game like that where the straddle is on so naturally the pot is going to be bigger than normal. You bet $1000...the fish isn't thinking, well effectively we started the hand 250bbs deep but since the straddle is on we're only 125bb deep so i can stack off lighter. He is just thinking...wow, thats a big bet. So vs some people that I know are nits I could find a fold. Vs most people I'm going to have to get it in here but there definitely are some people that are absolutely never raising you here with a smaller flush....they are 100% calling down, and some of the tighter or more scared money ones are folding the river with a some smaller flushes.

mbn

Pretty much this

People saying it could be a fold because the rare straddle makes it a bigger pot are missing that villain is the straddle. When no one else is straddling and he's just throwing in $40 because he's on tilt, this is like the easiest shove in the world.