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Originally Posted by hotjenny314
Probably the worst played hand ever on Poker After Dark by Tilly, in case you haven't seen it. (Ivey's face and Harman's look of digust make me LOL every single time.)
Ivey's face is hilarious for sure.
I think that Tiffany Williamson's call of Greg Raymer moving all in was actually worse though.
Back story; at some point earlier Shawn Sheikhan had reraised Tiffany Williamson all in after she raised in early position. TW then took literally over a half hour to fold KJs. And then had the audacity to ask if she could she Shawn's hand after a clock was called and time ran out on her.
WSOP 2005, blinds might have been 15k/30k
UTG raises (maybe 90K or so)
UTG+1 Tiffany re-raises with AJ (???)
MP1 Fossilman re-re-raises all in with an entire table to act behind him.
Lots of folds, including UTG who was raising with 77 (likely the bottom of his range).
Tiffany asks how much it is. Raymer has his chips all in neat stacks and says "1.3 million EXACTLY" (or whatever the number was). TW probably has about 2 million or so.
Tiffany: "Count it!" not please count it or may I have a count, or just taking the defending world champs word for the clearly lined up stacks in front of him.
Immediately Shawn Sheikhan calls a clock. TW protests that Fossilman hasn't even counted his chips yet. Shawn replies "he told you what he has lady." As much as a jerk that SS is, I thought he was spot on in doing this to her.
Raymer ignores all this, counts all his chips again, and of course, it's exactly the same number he gave her before.
Finally after some banter, TW calls, Raymer has KK and it holds up.
I really don't think that Raymer's range here is wider than AA or KK; I'm not thinking he makes this move with 2 raises in front and everyone left to act with AK or QQ even. He wasn't short stacked at the time, and the raise from UTG was from a fairly solid player.
Even if you debate that we should include AK QQ JJ, Tiffanys AJ is crushed.
I got a lot of flack for criticizing the play of Tiffany Williamson in this event, in fact left one women's poker forum over it. But she luckboxed a lot and took enormous amounts of time to make decisions. Her play was bad and her poker etiquette was worse.
What really irritated me was that I felt that ESPN had taken great pains to include coverage of legitimate female pros like Barbara Enright, Jennifer Harmon, et al. Finally there was only one woman to focus on, and she was doing things like this.
But all I heard from some quarters of the women's community was how the media was picking on poor Tiffany, how guys were calling the clock on her just because she was a woman. Actually most players were trying to be chivalrous and not call the clock on her even though she was playing at the speed of the
Human Rain Delay
Didn't mean to derail the thread, but sadly the last woman who got close (15th) didn't represent us particularly well. Actually the other Tiffany wasn't particularly ethical either. Maybe we should just stay away from sending women with that name to the event.
On another note, most folks know that Barbara Enright was the only woman to make the final table at the WSOP ME (1995), and that Annie Duke came in 10th in 2000. But I rarely hear anyone mention Susie Isaacs 10th place finish (1998). She's not the flashiest or most aggressive player out there, but I wish she would at least be given her props more for that finish.
Shauna