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08-07-2012, 10:59 PM
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#91
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journeyman
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: US
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
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Originally Posted by BlackSwan05
... being a gracious winner/loser is indifferent of gender.
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+1
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08-15-2012, 10:56 AM
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#92
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Big Double-Daddy
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: FIN, blogging/staking
Posts: 4,786
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Is bitch considered a misogynistic term? I always thought of it as the feminine version of douchebag or ass hole. Douchebag and ass hole are essentially synonymous with bitch, but are masculine, so it seems weird to use them to describe a woman. But I can switch to those if society deems that more appropriate.
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I don't think douchebag and a-hole are male-specific, but I agree that they are used on males much more often. Calling someone a bitch, however, implies belittling and inequality, and has a negative sexual connotation. So it's obv a pretty loaded word compared to the other two.
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08-15-2012, 10:31 PM
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#93
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Home Poker Pimp
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: HP in da HOOWWSSS! (NW of Philly)
Posts: 19,605
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
I don't think douchebag and a-hole are male-specific, but I agree that they are used on males much more often. Calling someone a bitch, however, implies belittling and inequality, and has a negative sexual connotation. So it's obv a pretty loaded word compared to the other two.
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Why isn't douchebag a similar negative connotation to bitch?
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08-15-2012, 10:39 PM
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#94
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Home Poker Pimp
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: HP in da HOOWWSSS! (NW of Philly)
Posts: 19,605
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
She looks at him, looks at me, and and back at him and says, "He was? Well ****, him the ****ing ******."
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The required response was something along the lines of
sad face, talking to the guy:
"I'm really, really sorry about your bad beat. I hope you do better in the future."
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08-16-2012, 10:24 PM
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#95
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Big Double-Daddy
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: FIN, blogging/staking
Posts: 4,786
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
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Originally Posted by Lottery Larry
Why isn't douchebag a similar negative connotation to bitch?
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I'm not sure I can word it much more clearly than in my previous post.
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08-17-2012, 08:59 AM
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#96
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veteran
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,707
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
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Originally Posted by Lottery Larry
Why isn't douchebag a similar negative connotation to bitch?
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Boy prostitute, rent boy would have a similar connotation. Im am not that familiar with english/american slangwords, but in Germany you say "Stricher"
and im totally sure its one of the worst insults you could make to a male.
Douchebag is a pretty harmless insult afaik.
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08-18-2012, 09:24 PM
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#97
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Home Poker Pimp
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: HP in da HOOWWSSS! (NW of Philly)
Posts: 19,605
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
I'm not sure I can word it much more clearly than in my previous post.
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Eh, maybe you're right. I've never been good in figuring out the thought process behind most slurs.
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09-18-2012, 01:10 PM
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#98
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stranger
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 3
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
Was in a game that got down to me and two guys... I was shortstacked and they started commenting on having to play a 'skirt' and how fast they were gonna take me out so the real game could start.... lol ...luckily, I got on a heater and ended up taking first place but just before the first of the two went out... one of them was like..>yo man, you gonna let this skirt take you out???? He didn't get to answer cuz I took him out.. then as I took out the last one, he was like..."I cant believe a skirt just kicked my &*&(^..." Silly guys, just cuz were dumb ole gurlz....don't mean we cant get get lucky once in a while.....BTW... Luck is no longer a factor in my game. I enjoy the competition and can be just as evil and aggressive at the table as any dumb ole guy! lol
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10-15-2012, 01:00 PM
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#99
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journeyman
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 234
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
All of the stories in this thread about women being berated at live tables by men makes me ask this question (open to both males, and females):
What is your opinion on another guy at the table backing the flamer down?
I have done it a few times on different occasions when I've seen it, and have been either lauded, or accused of white knighting. In reality, I have seen (with my own eyes) too much abuse of women, both verbally as well as physically, off of the poker table to just keep my mouth shut, and it disgusts me when it happens.
I'm not talking about normal, stupid, under-the-breath comments. I mean when a guy crosses the line from being a pissy little baby into being a vulgar, knuckle-dragging boor.
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10-15-2012, 02:58 PM
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#100
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veteran
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,707
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
As long as the guy isn't physically attacking or doesn't threaten her i wouldn't get involved. Let an idiot be an idiot and take his chips, no need to be an idiot yourself and lose your chips.
If the woman has a problem with him talking trash to her, she can certainly defend herself. If he crosses the line you can still punch him or whateva.
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10-15-2012, 08:20 PM
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#101
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Golden, CO
Posts: 5,173
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I have defended both men and women. I usually let it go unless the victim seems timid and unable or for whatever reason unwilling to say something themselves. I think it's a situational and conscious driven decision.
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10-15-2012, 09:51 PM
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#102
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Grindette
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Rosarito, Mexico
Posts: 1,669
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
Actually, I wish more people would step up and say something when someone is being a douche or cruel to a male or female at the poker table. It's a tricky dynamic though, I have said stuff before and it has gone multiple ways. So many times you see stuff happen and people notice but just don't want to get involved. I personally see nothing wrong with being the 'white knight' in situations like this...it's actually pretty cool imo...guys who do it and are able to handle themselves with class in situations like this are also pretty sexyyyyyyyyyy
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10-18-2012, 01:13 AM
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#103
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old hand
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,362
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
@peachfuzzle
"White knighting" is indeed a tricky issue, and the line in my mind is a little fuzzy, but I'll try to express it as best as I can...
If something is said or done at the table that offends you, regardless of whether it is directed at you or another player (male or female), I think that we as players always have the right to speak up. There may be times when we choose not to for various reasons (not wanting to potentially escalate an already tense situation, etc.), but if you want to speak up, go ahead.
I think it becomes trickier, however, if you're trying to express outrage on someone else's behalf... This isn't exactly the situation you were talking about, but, for example, if you don't like foul language, I think it's totally appropriate to ask someone to please watch their mouth. But, if you happen to be an old school guy who curses like a sailor around the boys but thinks it is inappropriate to curse in front of women, I'd personally prefer that you not say something like, "hey buddy, don't you know better than to curse in fronnt of a lady" because that kind of statement singles me out and makes it seem like I've broken into the boys' clubhouse and now they can't have fun anymore, and I don't want that.
And, of course, if actual physical violence is taking place (not that I've personally ever seen any), I would appreciate any assistance other players could provide in controlling the situation.
So, I guess the bottom line for me is feel free to speak your mind, but don't feel the need to speak for me.
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10-21-2012, 04:52 PM
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#104
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Worships space elves
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: power mad fool
Posts: 32,502
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
I've said this many times - I think more GUYS should stand up and say something when another guys has crossed a line.
I don't NEED anyone to stand up for me, so it's not about white-knighting. It's about letting the boor/******* know that he's not funny and that sort of behavior isn't acceptable. Sometimes when a woman stands up for herself, she just gets called an uptight bitch, or told she should lighten up and have a sense of humor. If more guys would just say something like "WTF, man? Not funny/cool," those type of comments would become globally less common, IMO.
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10-22-2012, 03:08 AM
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#105
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banned
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Online pokerland of Canada
Posts: 1,498
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Re: This is where we share what the guys think of us :)
Usually those morons are huge fish and are generally berating everyone and not just the women, but are dumping so much money, its a double edged sword for sure. Most guys dont wanna be the 1st person to stand up to verbal shenanigans from table donator, but i do agree it should be something to be looked down on.
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