Oh hi, im just going to say that I have been here before and leave it at that.

Yeah, I agree this person is not your friend, and if he is you shouldn't be friends with him. I mean that is such severe homophobia that illustrates he is a bigoted moron, and will not accept you when you tell him. It doesn't matter how far you guys go back or whatever, if he really feels that way then i have no ****ing idea why you would want to even hangout with him. If you wana find out if hes a real friend come out, if not you just have to deal with this bs and feel like a pussy for not standing up for basic rights.


Edit, just read that he wasnt an actual friend. Even still to say nothing to a statement that extreme is not okay imo, it is exactly the same as some guy going of about black people or any race, just say something.


Recently I have been coming out to more people in my life, rocking flamboyant clothes around, kissing ( a new! ) bf in public in fronts of lot of people etc. 3 months ago id NEVER see myself being like this, i was so insecure about everything, but holy **** just being yourself and not caring is so wonderful. Last night me n my bf saw magic mike and cuddled in the front row in front of everyone, it was wonderful. Again id never see myself doing something like that. And yeah I starting being more "vocal" and public on facebook about gay things, and just being myself to a bunch of people who don't know im gay and it is just fun to be myself and not care, even on the internets. It really all is in our heads and the monsters in the closets simply are not there. Seriously people don't give a **** that you are gay, except for a tiny minority who are just pathetic people that aren't worth the time of day. I have been called ****** in public like 3 times, and just laughed it of, but normally people don't look twice and if they do they normally think you are cute .

With all that being said I haven't told my family, but I am trying to get there, its a slow process for me. I feel like they are picking up on some signs tho. I just want to bring my bf home ( live with parents) so badly, but ugh. I came out to my brothers gf though, so that is the first step, im getting there.


Sir I respect your style, mine is very similar

And livra, exactly what dominic said. Im not a fan of that style :P, but it looks good on some people, however holy **** i want those socks.



Magic mike was ****ing amazing btw. And the swimmers are gorgeous jesus.

ITT I learned that I have a more masculine style than LirvA, OR SgtRJ... Confirmed butch gal, IMO

TCFT are you in a liberal or conservative area or?? In the city or in the country?

Good post

Well its Ottawa so its pretty half and half but compared to America it would be considered very liberal. I mean being out here isnt a big deal, its a big city in Canada so you're not gonna run into to much bad stuff. I have been called fa go t by strangers for no reason whatsoever about 3 times, but that's the worst that has happened to me. The majority of people I run into are very accepting, it actually is so shocking at first that so many ****ing people just love gay people (mostly women). Like me and my bf ran into some chick my bf knew last night and she just said something like " I ****ING LOVE GAY PEOPLE!" it made me smile so much .

Obviously its not as easy in some places in America, but even still I do think its way easier than you think even without knowing what the city is like. How is your area lirva? Are there gay clubs? A gay community you know of? Check on craigslist in your town are there a lot fo ppl on there ( dont use that site it is not a good idea), it's just a good way to see how active ru community is.

Yeah there's a gay community centered around this hotel in OKC. Kinda seedy imo.

Most/many gay communities seem seedy. Take another look at the straight community and tell me which you think is seedier.

People in general are horny and love sex, but in too many places it's considered taboo and slutty for one to be honest about that, so it forces people who do to feel repressed and therefor we end up referring to the way they live as seedy etc. etc. even though the very same people tossing these labels around often love to have multiple sexual partners themselves aswell.

I've had experience with this myself, as I'm sure we all have, one time in particular really stands out for me and was particularly unpleasant and the people judging me particularly hypocritical, but thankfully that's in my past now. Anyway...

It's not a matter of gay community vs. straight community, people in general are this way.



@Toocuteforthis,

Try not to get banned for the millionth time, this time eh?

But I'm happy for you to hear that you have found a longer term guy (I know that's what you wanted,) and that you are starting to feel happier and that your life is more lightness then darkness now, that's wonderful news.

IDK, I walked around in camo for 5 years and probably buy at least 50% of my clothing in the guys section.

But I'll let you have this one.

Meh the community is overrated, if you are gay you are apart of the community. And from the outside it does look a bit seedy, but that's just because you generalize from what you see from the outside. Once you get to know some people you will realize how diverse that community really is, and how you will absolutely despise some people yet love others. Connecting with other gay females and males is so important, it really was super uplifting to find people like me both male and female.

And thanks it, yeah i am actually so happy right now even tho its only been two weeks, i feel like im falling for him <3, finally not so depressed.

But yes, everyone itt who is not a lesbian should see magic mike, its actually a great movie with great acting and bundles of men .

This will sound weird from a bi - sexual guy that is definitely in to other guys sometimes, but I'm sure none of those guys would be my type, even if there is a bundle of them.

Will probably see the movie at some point regardless though.

Like there were any straight guys watching Magic Mike, anyway

lol, yeah it was all women, we were the cute gay couple cuddling in the front <3.

And IT, i understand that, but you can;t not be physically attracted to the rock hard abs and beautiful ass in that movie. And besides its actually a genuinely good movie with great acting.

Wise decision... It's never smart to challenge a butch on her swag ...
But, in the interest of tomboy unity and in appreciation of your support as a straight ally, I will give you credit for spending more time in camo than I ever will.

Well, I'm pretty sure the politics forum isn't the place to be posting heatedly... oh well, it is inevitable anyway.

Lol k not posting there again =p.

It's really not that heavy handed of a forum. Just don't personally attack people and you're pretty much fine.

You mean you don't normally walk around in a Star Trek uniform? I only have a small sample size (1), but assumed that was your normal gear.

I've actually been wearing mil surplus most of the last few years, which is kinda funny because I'm really not very butch. I just love having lots of pockets so I can avoid schlepping a purse around.

Shauna

I cant beleive how happy I am lately, everything is jus working out for me for once in my life, a month ago I was completely alone with nobody and had minor suicidal thoughts linger in my mind. Today I have a wonderful bf and am randomly meeting a ton of new freinds. Yesterday i went to a picnic with this lesbian girl I knew, met so many fun new people. was such a fun time being myself with such a fun and accepting group. It's just ShockIng how I switched from sheer depression to sheer happiness in such a short amount of time. And it's all from being myself and loving myself not carting about what others think . To anyone hiding parts of their personality because of insecurities , I advise u to come out life is to short to not be yourself I am rocking the most colorful outfits everyday and I love it lol.

This is sort of a new topic for this thread, I guess, but I am wondering if there is any kind of gay poker group/org/etc. that is active on the East Coast right now?

I used to play in AC almost every weekend from 2003-2005, and there was a gay poker league that this one guy was trying to get started. I really wanted to be supportive of it because I liked the idea, and I found that I rarely, if ever, encountered other gay men at the poker tables in AC (and I'm pretty sure I was the only out grinder on the higher stakes LHE games in AC at that point in time).

Then I moved back to New Orleans after Katrina and lost track of all things East Coast, including the fate of the start-up gay poker league. I ran a Google search and everything that came up appeared to me to be out-of-date.

I'm back on the East Coast now and am playing at the Borg a lot, as well as several other spots that I'd rather not post because the 2 + 2'ers there haven't figured out who I am yet (some of the Borg regulars already know, so whatever on that one). Also, just by way of clarification, I am totally out at the tables--it's just that straight, male players generally totally underestimate my ability to play, even if they've played with me several times and seen me rack the chips (they seem to think I'm just a lucky, silly ****, seems like). To that end, I don't always disclose the fact that I post occasionally on 2 + 2 because the world of mid-stakes-to-high-stakes LHE and mixed games is very small these days, and it's best to keep my ID in the closet, so to speak, even if I'm not.

Any info would be appreciated, and if anyone's a Borg reg or plays AC or nearby to AC, I'd be interested to hear your experiences of playing the games around here...

I seriously doubt you will find any gay poker groups or organizations. I understand u want to find poker players who are gay because of simalir interests, but that isn't only who/where you should be looking for wether it b dating or friends. Meeting new friends or dating ppl you actually care about can b so ****ing hard at times. You just gotta get out there, online, clubs, gyms, and the casino as well of course. Just don't limit yourself to finding gay players, look everywhere for connections because you will never know when you find someone special, friend or partner. Gl

Thanks for the response. I have been with the same guy for over 10 years, and we live together, etc., so I'm not looking for dates or new friends, I guess, as much as I am looking for other serious poker players to discuss hand play, game, selection, etc. (I'm always looking for people to help me improve my game!), and I was just curious, more specifically, if that gay poker league is still around because I thought that was a good thing for a lot of reasons:

1. To bring in new GLBT's who might not otherwise "identify" with who they see when they look around their local card room (i.e., to make card rooms more welcoming to novice players who are GLBT);

2. To provide a forum for strategy discussion in a friendly environment (most of the grinders I know in AC who are really interested in talking about serious poker are not, frankly, all that welcoming--although several notable exceptions come to mind, and I find that straight women who are good LHE players are generally attracted to me at the tables because they sense that I am sensitive to a lot of the sht they put up with at the tables and therefore will discuss poker topics, too, away from the games); and

3. The very existence of the league, I thought, legitimized to the greater poker world the fact that there are, indeed, many of us GLBT's playing poker, and in many cases playing at the highest levels (wouldn't it be nice if the next time you saw Vanessa win a huge title she gave a shout-out to the Gay Poker League or whatever?).

Again, thank you for responding. I suspect that you're right: there is no such league anymore. But I just thought I'd make the inquiry here because I always thought it was a really good idea and--for all I know--the guy who started it may read this forum?

P.S.: I am glad that you have found so much happiness lately. That is really great. Take good care of yourself.

For any1 who wants to chat more with fellow glbt poker players send me a pm on here and i'll add you to the group chat i've made on skype for twss.

It may not be a live gay poker league, but it gets the job done (or would if it had more people )

Actually i cant find it on my skype, if some1 who is still in it could add me back in....

Yah good post man, gl with getting something going!! 10 years is great congrats hope it keeps going so well <3

Well, I don't know if it's "great," because he's a total pain in the ass but thanks! I'm just kiddin--it's great, he's great, it's all good.

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