Humor me please.

There is a complete disregard by those males who enter this tournament of the spirit behind these tournaments. I have played in four of them (Cali and CT) and any guy who doesn't get how his presence violates that spirit is a complete moron and entering them knowing this is lower than scum. There are MANY reasons why. The event allows for women to enter an event that offers them a chance to play in a bigger field but not be exposed to testosterone-laden anger in/around them while getting their feet wet using less $$ for a buy-in than most events that take place at these tournaments. Still today, women earn quite a bit less than men. Therefore, it means far more to women.

Maybe there should be a same-day male-only event with the same kind buy-in. This way there is a 'like' event. It could be called the 'x and y' event where the sexes are kept separate and the winners of each event compete against each other for additional $$ where the winner can choose a charitable organization for which to donate a percentage of the proceeds.

I couldn't agree with this entire paragraph more. Most of the women who are professional poker players will obviously admit that the ladies event is a much softer field than the standard events that are mostly male players. Like he said above they even change the backer rates to show that which takes it a step further.
How do guys even get a ticket into the ladies event? Don't they check licenses or something or what ? Kind of pathetic to even be allowed into it in the first place

It's currently illegal to forbid them from playing the event in Nevada since it's discriminatory against men to do so. I doubt anyone on this forum would think a White-only, Black-only, Latino-only, Asian-only, GLBT-only, Disabled-only, etc. tourney would be okay, would they? But some men do think every drop of EV is important enough to still enter the tournament even though the event is intended for women only.

This is such a scam. I can't believe this is still going on. Remember when the ladies event used to be limit, because everyone knows "women can't play no limit?" 1/3 less chips and MORE juice??? LOL.

I've never played in a ladies event, and never will. Just saying.

Leave the ladies alone, let them have thier events. It is also a social thing, also allows new ladies to try tournament poker in a less intimidating enviroment.

It is simply a ladies event. Not much to look into.

Casino's should take a stand.

Didnt the 'Tiltboys' play in the ladies event dressed in drag back before poker was all cool 'n stuff?

It's so wrong. Nevada need to change the rules and restrict guys playing in ladies event.

That would amount to state sponsored discrimination. Not just state allowed, but state sponsored.

http://articles.philly.com/2009-09-1...st-poker-lingo

Abe Korotki won ladies event in AC.

Two men just made the final table at EPT Deauville, PokerStars blogger is not happy...

http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/ept/se...rs-126543.html

It's unfortunate, but will be bound to happen unless they play in a jurisdiction that will legally restrict these event to women only (which would violate discrimination laws in many places). I'm assuming no/few women entered the men's event? I would be quite happy if they did well in the men's event though.

uh... lol @ men's event.

seriously whats the point of 'men'/'women' tournaments if the other gender joins regardless.... i think it's a show of disrespect for the other gender to play in a men/women only tournament!

it's not that hard to not play one event out of the many they have. and for the guys/girls who're worried they're missing EV.... then you're not a good player anyway since you should be able to make a profit wether or not you play really bad players (not saying women are bad players)

i think being laughed at because you got a 'women tournament' cash on your poker cv while being a man is your own fault and should be your own responsibility. if you didn't want this to happen, you shouldn't of played the women tournament

i like women, so let them have their tournament. there are plenty of other games filled with fish who like to lose their money to you.

ps: im a male
ps2: go women

Just curious. What exactly is the EV in these fields? Also, if more of the women who only played the ladies events played the open events, then poker wouldn't be such a "man's game".

It's a bit hypocritical to say poker is a man's game and at the same time hold these events for women to make them feel inferior to the men.

936 players showed up for the 2012 Ladies' event (buy-in of 1,000). Let's assume 36 of those were male (probably less, but let's work with round numbers). That's 900 women for a 1k event.

6,598 people showed up for the 2012 main event. If 1,000 of those people were female, that would be just over 15% of the field. But let's be honest, even though I don't have the numbers in front of me, I would say if 500 females entered the main event, that would have been pushing it (7.5% of the field).

In my research, when there was 97 left, there were 5 females still left. Assuming things are averaged out, that's 5.15%. But as we all know, things are averaged out. Assuming that women are "worse" than men, let's bump it to 6% of the field. If women are better, let's down it to 4.5%. That's anywhere from 300 to 400 females in a field of nearly 6600.

So why is it that for the biggest tournament in the world (and the softest tournament in the world), why is there only 1/3rd to 1/2 half of the females who entered the ladies event entered the main event instead of 100%? (assuming there is no new ladies, which is never going to happen).

Instead of the 300-400 women that entered the main event, it should have been at least 1,000.

What's next, an amateurs only event? A gay only event (quickest tournament ever)? A blacks only event? An under 25 event (tho tbf, this is the tournaments now :-p)? A 25-55 yo event?

Quickest path to equality is to be treated by everyone equally.

Because the main event is a 10k buyin and the ladies event is a 1k. That's a big difference for any bank roll, regardless of gender considerations.

Just found this now:

"Female players totaled 211 players -- representing 3.2 percent of the field. This is about the same percentage of females that played last year."

Courtesy of: http://pokernewsboy.com/wsop-news/20...factoids/12769

So even my 300-400 number was exaggerated.

I am calling sheningans on this. Satellites run all the time.

211 females entered a 6598 player event. That is 3.2% of the field. There were 936 people in a ladies event. Even if there were 36 men in it (which I highly doubt) this is 3.8% of the field and 900 women in the event.

I highly doubt the 211 females who played in the main event also played in the ladies event. What the real number is, I will not know until I have both lists in front of me). I do not see why there were not close to 1000 women in the main event (still low on the population percentage scale, but would be a lot better than it is now).

Women in poker is a good thing.
Women being a side show is not.

I have no idea what you mean by calling my statement "sheningans" but it's really not that difficult to understand.
Not everyone, regardless of man or woman, who plays a 1k at the wsop, can afford to play a 10k. Even as you mention, that it is the softest tournament in the world, it is still 10k which is a lot for most people and their bank rolls. Does not matter if satellites are running 24 hours a day.

I think that a good amount of the women who played the 10k main event, also played the 1k ladies event, as they are only a few days apart from each other. You can't just make a blanket statement saying that the 211 females who played the main didn't play the ladies for whatever reason.

I don't really understand the point you are trying to make itt in any of your posts, except for pointing out that not many women play the main event.

You are pointing out that 10k is a lot of money. I am not calling that into question. Anyone who doesn't have a million+ wouldn't argue this fact.

However, the fact is that 6387 men paid (or won) the 10k needed to pay the entry. Since you said that a good amount of woman played both the main and the ladies event, let's extrapolate that. Assuming 90% of the women who played in the main event, played in the ladies event, that's 750 women that played in the ladies event but DID NOT play the main event. 750 out of 936 (let's say 900 since men count undetermined at this time). That's 6 times the number. The largest 1k in 2012 recieved 4620 people. If you multiplied this by 6, you get 27,720.

Are you going to say that if the WSOP ME was a 1k event there would be 25-30,000 entrants?

What exactly is the point you are trying to make?

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My point is, there any many 1k-1500 events at the wsop. Why is the number of women in these events not higher?

If this is your point, then this is the wrong thread.

Looks like they're trying something new this year to discourage males from entering the Ladies Event:

From the FAQ page for WSOP 2013 (https://totalrewards.custhelp.com/ap...etail/a_id/618):

Can Men Play in the Ladies Event?

The Ladies event is designed for women, however men can play. The entry fee for the event is $10,000. Women will receive a discount of their entry fee, as their buy-in will be $1,000.