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Old 01-20-2016, 02:02 AM   #26
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Re: Justin Bonomo on bad treatment of women at pokers

Oh, Christ.

The fact that things are terrible for women in the Middle East (which I don't think any reasonable person would ever debate) does not make what happens to women in card rooms somehow less bad.

Clearly, what happens in the Middle East is orders of magnitude worse.

That does not make the way women in poker are typically treated at all acceptable.

It is not a competition.
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Old 01-20-2016, 09:06 AM   #27
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Re: Justin Bonomo on bad treatment of women at pokers

^^^
Outside of any physical contact, it means it is hardly worth the hand-wringing when you consider the context of the event, its setting, and its participants.

Bonomo reminds me of a Canadian "celebrity" I came across while living in Toronto by the name of Jian Ghomeshi. A hipster radio host on its national broadcaster with a degree in feminist studies who publicly made a show of very Liberal social justice causes while privately savagely abusing and beating the women he dated and worked with (since charged a la Bill Cosby, though not yet convicted). From what I heard, me thinks JB doth protest too much.
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Old 01-20-2016, 03:02 PM   #28
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Re: Justin Bonomo on bad treatment of women at pokers

Attractive girls always get the attention. They dont stop go to gym, even if they feel like naked because of nasty looks. They dont stop to go out for a drink even if they been asked for their phone 20 times in a night not in a lifetime.

As its been well said above.. its a social problem not a poker problem.

Imagine what happens to watresses in bars and pubs

And of course I dont compensate or justify the reporeted incidents, but comon, poker has nothing to do with it.

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How does a poker room compare to another entertainment venue like a bar or a nightclub though?
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Thats a strong point
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Old 01-24-2016, 02:55 PM   #29
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Re: Justin Bonomo on bad treatment of women at pokers

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Thats a strong point
It wasn't a point it was a question.

Also the level of behaviour in bars is dependent on the culture rather than something that's fixed and unchangeable. If a man tried to physically harass a woman in a working men's club in the north east of England (yes, they allow women in now) then the other customers would physically harass him on her beahlf because that's the culture (at least it was when those guys were younger).

A good question to ask people is "Would you do that if a policeman was standing here?" The true answer is "no" - it's interesting how something that is an "uncontrollable" result of alcohol becomes controllable when big guys, police, the man's mother, etc. are around.

This is a real problem, but I don't see it as part of some poker-specific culture that is being spread globally by some mechanism, given the the low levels of contact between recreational players in different venues around the world and the high levels of contact, and similarity of behaviour, they have with non-poker players in the places they live.

Yes, it's a first-world problem, but so is being a man whose main problem is having to deal with "feminism" rather than having to deal with real problems like the failure of one's subsistence crops, compulsory military service, not being able to afford antibiotics for one's children etc. This is a forum based in a first-world country so it's obviously going to focus mostly on first-world problems.
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Old 03-22-2016, 10:23 PM   #30
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Re: Justin Bonomo on bad treatment of women at pokers

7th grade kid lol.
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:16 PM   #31
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I agree. This isn't the place to speculate on a serious matter like this.
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Old 04-08-2016, 11:17 AM   #32
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^^^
Outside of any physical contact, it means it is hardly worth the hand-wringing when you consider the context of the event, its setting, and its participants.

Bonomo reminds me of a Canadian "celebrity" I came across while living in Toronto by the name of Jian Ghomeshi. A hipster radio host on its national broadcaster with a degree in feminist studies who publicly made a show of very Liberal social justice causes while privately savagely abusing and beating the women he dated and worked with (since charged a la Bill Cosby, though not yet convicted). From what I heard, me thinks JB doth protest too much.
Ghomesi was recently acquitted - another trial coming in June.
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Old 04-08-2016, 03:20 PM   #33
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Ghomesi was recently acquitted - another trial coming in June.
Oh those good looks of his helped in court, no doubt.
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Old 04-10-2016, 06:20 AM   #34
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Nothing to add except that Bonomo writes like a seventh grade kid.
If, when you were in the 7th grade, you could write like Bonomo does now you likely wouldn't be trolling forums for your daily dose of effing fulfillment. You really should have left it at 'nothing to add'.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:53 AM   #35
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Re: Justin Bonomo on bad treatment of women at pokers

I am pretty much agreed with some here..there's not much issue about it

its all back to individuals and as human being,if you see this thing happen, men or women, you should act on it

I do believe we are created equal..and we must act accordingly...cheers
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Old 04-14-2016, 02:33 PM   #36
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Re: Justin Bonomo on bad treatment of women at pokers

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I've been playing live poker for 12 years and I don't recall a high amount of women being abused. If anything, I'd say it's less to be honest. I've been treated like **** quite a bit. I've seen men be cruel to men a lot.
This has generally been my experience as well. The only major difference I've noticed has actually been in the opposite direction; treating women like delicate flowers, apologizing for the most minor of inconveniences, slowplaying, etc.

Not that I doubt that poor behavior happens...I have no question it does. I just rarely ever see it, and frequently see exaggerated behavior on the opposite side of the spectrum.

Edit: Just read the full post, including links/sources. Claims 54% of all online gamblers are women.

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