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How do you deal with Tilt? How do you deal with Tilt?

03-04-2011 , 06:10 PM
Idea for this thread came from Jamie's Love and Poker thread and brought up a few good points.
How do you ladies handle tilt?
This may even be a situation where women deal with something (tilt) differently than men?
In my own experience, I find this to be true.
But everyone is different.

Would love you hear how you all handle it. Unfortunately, I cannot offer advice in this regard, as I am still learning how to handle it myself
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03-04-2011 , 06:30 PM
I don't tilt as much as I used to, but I try to control it by reminding myself that I WANT people to play badly, and as long as I got my money in good, that's all I can do.

One thing I quit doing was posting all my bad beats in the BBV threads in the strat forums. I still post one now and again, but I used to post them over and over, and then I would just dwell on the bad beat instead of moving on to the next hand.

Also try to think if I would play the hand any differently. For instance, I literally just lost KK vs AA AIPF (K OTT), but doesn't phase me at all. Would I fold KK preflop? No I would not.
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03-04-2011 , 06:34 PM
Usually grab a Starbucks and a bite to eat if I am at the casino (I don't go much). I don't play online anymore, but when I did I would take my dogs for a walk if I was tilting.
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03-04-2011 , 07:31 PM
with a tall glass of Bud
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03-04-2011 , 08:35 PM
If I'm really tilted, I have to get up and do something to physically remove myself from the situation and focus on something completely different. I'll get up and walk to the coffee shop to get myself a tea instead of just ordering one at the table. Take the dog for a walk. Obtain ice cream. Call a friend and not mention my tilt but try to just listen to what's going on with them.

Last edited by HiFi; 03-04-2011 at 08:36 PM. Reason: if only i coped as well with liftilt
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03-04-2011 , 08:49 PM
I throw a pillow against the wall

works every time
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03-04-2011 , 09:20 PM
I karate chopped a lamp once a couple of years ago, but never done anything like that before or since.
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03-04-2011 , 11:01 PM
I'm just going to watch Amber's avatar until the tilt stops

I feel like I stopped tilting when I started adding more tables. You can't focus on a gross beat when you have to make your next decision - you have no time to dwell or replay the hand again. Also, you can't get as emotionally invested in one tourney when you're spreading your focus a little.

If I'm playing cash live, taking a walk works.
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03-05-2011 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JamieAnn
I'm just going to watch Amber's avatar until the tilt stops

I feel like I stopped tilting when I started adding more tables. You can't focus on a gross beat when you have to make your next decision - you have no time to dwell or replay the hand again. Also, you can't get as emotionally invested in one tourney when you're spreading your focus a little.

If I'm playing cash live, taking a walk works.
Yea, actually, what I started doing along those same lines Jamie, is stacking my tables instead of tiling them. Which basically prevents me from seeing how I bust. lol. It was pretty funny though last Sunday I went over to Joey Capp's house for Sunday and I was involved in a hand with aces in the SM and on the river I said out loud "ok, I'm not folding" and so he turns and looks at my screen as I call the all-in but then a new screen pops up and he's like "WAIT, What happened???!!!" and I'm like "Well, we'll find out eventually" lol It was pretty funny at the time
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03-05-2011 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ

Also try to think if I would play the hand any differently. For instance, I literally just lost KK vs AA AIPF (K OTT), but doesn't phase me at all. Would I fold KK preflop? No I would not.
This happened to me two hands in a row yesterday. Had KK, all in pre-flop vs AA and lost. Rebought and got KK literally the next hand and someone else had AA again.

Then, when I was on the AA side later, the turn came up a king. If this were a couple months ago, I would've blown my whole bankroll on tilt.

I think good bankroll management might be the key. It takes a lot of stress out of these freak incidents and helps you avoid playing on tilt + moving up on stakes to make back what you lost. That only happened to me before I started a conservative bankroll management plan. Now all I care is that I make the right play. And I'm probably not good enough to fold KK preflop yet even though I highly suspected I was up against AA

Also, I think if you're multi-tabling and cascade/stack the tables, it helps because you don't get to see the result of each hand. That way you can focus on making the correct play vs tilting on bad beats.
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03-05-2011 , 01:49 PM
My problem isn't with bad beats necessarily. Sometimes I'll have to exclaim "SERIOUSLY!?" but other times it's just sort of, "Meh, happens." What does tilt me, though, is when I fold and really feel like I should call and then my set hits, or whatever. I end up so tilted from that that I move on to make even worse decisions later. This is something I'm still trying to work on getting over.
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03-05-2011 , 05:40 PM
I'm wondering if it's even possible for womentilt to be different than mantilt, at least for the basic source of same.

Obviously the reasons to tilt might manifest itself differently..
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03-05-2011 , 08:30 PM
Maybe we have a different kind of tilt when we're losing and we feel like nothing we can have can ever be good. Then we might start folding way too much versus getting excessively aggressive, like men might tend to do.
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03-06-2011 , 03:46 AM
Long-term I deal with tilt by setting aside time each week for studying and making sure I continue to evolve as a player. Getting drawn out on stings of course, but I try to remember the times that I have gotten lucky when I really needed to, and to channel how happy the player that just sucked out must be. I also remind myself that if the player that got it in good always won then not nearly as many fish would play...

Maybe slightly off topic, but one of the best long-term effects poker has had on me is dealing with life tilt a ton better. Before poker I think I let minor things upset me more than they should have. Since playing, I find it a lot easier to think of the long-termaments.
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03-06-2011 , 01:06 PM
Another effective way to deal with tilt is to take Percoset.

Okay, I don't take it to deal with tilt, but if my back is giving me a problem and I've taken one or two, I've noticed I'm pretty much untiltable. Side effects FTW?
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03-06-2011 , 04:45 PM
For me, if you realize you are tilting then that's half the battle, you need to go for a walk and leave the game for a bit. Take a break as you have no control of your game when you are tilting. When you tilt you give the other players an advantage against you.

Try not to let other players get under your skin because if you do allow their comments and bad play get to you, you let them win that maneuver. Some players purposely use this as a tactic to gain an advantage.

So relax, you won't win every tournament you enter no matter how good you become, and try to let all the bad beats and bad players roll off your back, its part of poker. Turning off the chat can help as well when playing online.
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03-06-2011 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dogfishy
Maybe we have a different kind of tilt when we're losing and we feel like nothing we can have can ever be good. Then we might start folding way too much versus getting excessively aggressive, like men might tend to do.
yeah this is what I do 100%
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03-07-2011 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JamieAnn
I'm just going to watch Amber's avatar until the tilt stops

I feel like I stopped tilting when I started adding more tables. You can't focus on a gross beat when you have to make your next decision - you have no time to dwell or replay the hand again. Also, you can't get as emotionally invested in one tourney when you're spreading your focus a little.

If I'm playing cash live, taking a walk works.
AND, playing "stacked" really helps. However, you really need to use HEM to maximize +EV
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03-08-2011 , 10:03 PM
It works, but it does take a little of the fun out of the game. Seeing what happens is part of the fun. But I guess making money is the most fun, lol.
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03-08-2011 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoAPA
AND, playing "stacked" really helps. However, you really need to use HEM to maximize +EV
Yea, I don't keep them stacked the entire time. In the early stages I can, but obviously in the later stages I spread them out.
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03-09-2011 , 03:05 AM
Have to disagree on the stacking imo. I have played a ton of different arrangements and really prefer tiling as I think it allows you more info. Even when playing a lot of tables, sometimes I notice something like a redic loose call from someone that I don't have enough hands with to pickup that info from my HUD. I also like to see what regs call me with (true this is info I could get after the fact, but I like the ability to insta-take a quick note on them if I see something that really stands out).
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03-09-2011 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by WomanPokerPlayer
For me, if you realize you are tilting then that's half the battle, you need to go for a walk and leave the game for a bit. Take a break as you have no control of your game when you are tilting. When you tilt you give the other players an advantage against you.

Try not to let other players get under your skin because if you do allow their comments and bad play get to you, you let them win that maneuver. Some players purposely use this as a tactic to gain an advantage.

So relax, you won't win every tournament you enter no matter how good you become, and try to let all the bad beats and bad players roll off your back, its part of poker. Turning off the chat can help as well when playing online.
This is really important because there are all kinds of tilt that have an impact on your game. Tilt can be defined as not playing optimally and can be as simple as losing interest/focus or as big as ubermonkeytilt. Anything that takes you off of your A game.

I think tilt is a cumulative thing and the sooner you realize you are on your way to your worst level of tilt the better for your game. If you take one bad beat on the river meh .. little tilty but I have 5 more tables so shake it off, ut oh... next table busts on a bad beat... add a little more tilt rinse repeat ... the earlier in that chain we recognize it and develop a strategy to head it off at the pass the better, you can't just treat the end monkeytilt as it was a result of the events leading up to it.

I tilted more often when I was playing mtts I would imagine because the hands that my brain found tiltworthy were more often than not life or death hands, but the hands that tilted me the absolute worst, were hands that I played badly.

First and foremost HEM is my biggest tool both on the felt as well as off.
My coaches have drilled into my head over and over and over again that my winnings line is irrelavent, it's been removed from all of my graphs, its the EV line that tells the best story, accepting that fact has helped me be able to ignore the individual hands since they are such a minute point in the big picture.

BUT marking and reviewing the hands that we felt off kilter in, felt tilty about after or were unsure of our line is crucial and a learning opportunity. Finding no mistake on the line you took is a great confidence builder, the next time you are in the situation you KNOW you have taken the right line and can chalk it up to variance and carry on, and finding a mistake and figuring out the best line makes you better.

So reviewing hands is very empowering and can have a minimizing effect on tilt since we are taking such a proactive approach to the hands that tend to tilt us. We are taking that hand's power over us away, by marking it to look at it later we reclaim our power and control our tilt.

The moment we start tilting is the moment it starts to cost us EV and bad decisions due to tilt compound FAST (I have graphs to prove it lol), the sooner we shut it down/walk away/reset our mindset the less money our tilt will cost us so recognizing our entire cycle of tilt is the key.

And finally if you haven't read Elements of Poker by Tommy Angelo I strongly suggest it, its a great easy read with tons of great content.
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09-27-2011 , 01:32 AM
haha the throwing the pillow against the wall comment was funny because I have done that before.

When I tilt I go and see my dogs and either just sit and watch them or take them for a walk. They are always so happy so it ends up making me feel bit better!

Sometimes it makes me laugh because when i tilt i kind of make loud comments like "are you serious" "oh you got to be joking" and i will either wake the dogs up who were sleeping or they will just look at me with this funny look which seems like they are thinking "umm what on earth is wrong with her" lol.
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09-27-2011 , 08:29 AM
Watch the video where al pacino talks about you being a lemon. Thats how you handle tilt. Only when you lose and can handle it.. is when you know you're alive.

Its kinda like being nice to someone. Sure you can be nice to someone who is nice to you but the real challenge is to be nice to someone you hate. Winning money will make you happy but if you lose money and you can cope with it.. its actually a good feeling sometimes lol, as long as u didnt bet away ur house. Sounds crazy, and I sound mental... but when I tilt.. I get so mad. All i do is kinda laugh and say.. ahhhh man.. this is ridiculous.. and then i talk to myself slightly.. and i wanna punch something but i refuse to. after 20 mins of calming down i say.. i just lose 2,000$ cause i acted stupid... but its ok cause im still alive. Move on and the next time u win ull realize how much it didnt matter.
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09-27-2011 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DADPAPA
Watch the video where al pacino talks about you being a lemon. Thats how you handle tilt. Only when you lose and can handle it.. is when you know you're alive.

Its kinda like being nice to someone. Sure you can be nice to someone who is nice to you but the real challenge is to be nice to someone you hate. Winning money will make you happy but if you lose money and you can cope with it.. its actually a good feeling sometimes lol, as long as u didnt bet away ur house. Sounds crazy, and I sound mental... but when I tilt.. I get so mad. All i do is kinda laugh and say.. ahhhh man.. this is ridiculous.. and then i talk to myself slightly.. and i wanna punch something but i refuse to. after 20 mins of calming down i say.. i just lose 2,000$ cause i acted stupid... but its ok cause im still alive. Move on and the next time u win ull realize how much it didnt matter.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way.
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